[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

I don’t entirely agree with that Vicky. Yes, the ‘men in grey suits’ were very wrong to hush it up; they did it to protect Meghan’s reputation, which is still wrong, and they need to be held to account for that, but I don’t think it is much worse than the actual bullying itself which have left girls traumatized to this day.
My understanding is that the people in question wanted their side of the story known as Meghan is going to give hers. A one sided account wouldn’t be fair on anyone.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

I disagree, if people can get justice in later life for sexual assault carried out when they were kids, there should be no issue with this as I assume records were kept at the time

It should not have been swept under the carpet at the time, and it shouldn't be now either.

[Alf]

Meanwhile, there's still a wall around Washington DC with a military presence. Just a normal everyday happening it seems.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.

They reported it Kaz so they wanted it dealt with. It was the higher ups who buried it

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think that should be down to the Police, not the Palace. These allegations about Meghan are about a member of staff, the allegations about Andrew are not work related. The Queen sacked him as an employee and she maintained the integrity of the "business". Unless there have been reports of his proclivities towards a member of Palace staff, there is little more the Palace can do about him

Ah ok..

Well they need to investigate these allegations of bullying very thoroughly then.

[jet]

It also has to be factored in that -
'Harry pleaded with Mr. Knauf not to pursue the allegations'. (The Times)
Harry has denied this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[user104658]

Nah, with all of this "Well now WE accuse YOU first hahaha!" stuff, The Royal Illusion has been unveiled as just another petty political entity. Stiff upper lip and pretending to be above it would have been their best way forward. They're down scrapping in the mud now like all of the other celebs... can't say I don't enjoy seeing it . It was never anything but smoke and mirrors and relied upon the public buying into the whole thing to keep afloat... now even the future king's brother isn't buying into it so it's collapsing like a pack of soggy cards and they're chucking around rumours and accusations. So undignified. Love that .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nah, with all of this "Well now WE accuse YOU first hahaha!" stuff, The Royal Illusion has been unveiled as just another petty political entity. Stiff upper lip and pretending to be above it would have been their best way forward. They're down scrapping in the mud now like all of the other celebs... can't say I don't enjoy seeing it . It was never anything but smoke and mirrors and relied upon the public buying into the whole thing to keep afloat... now even the future king's brother isn't buying into it so it's collapsing like a pack of soggy cards and they're chucking around rumours and accusations. So undignified. Love that .

none of the people who approached the Times work for the Royal Family

[Tom4784]

The fact that nothing came of it, and that the media have seemingly sat on this for quite a while and only chose to reveal it when they were just soundly beaten in court speaks volumes.

A rational mind would look to this story with a ton of doubt, given the circumstances. If it was a different royal, I doubt the media and the people they cater for would be so quick to believe it.

[rusticgal]

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

none of the people who approached the Times work for the Royal Family

Does that matter? They're embroiled in petty tut-for-tat nonsense. It shows them up as no different to any I their celebrity family. It Chips away at the Royal Pantomime. That's funny (to me).

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

Another family shunned....

unbelievable

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

That's a whole lot of assumptions without any kind of basis beyond disliking Meghan.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

Stop the whole "Harry stands by and watches" , he's a grown man not a child , he's been trying to get away from royal duties for a long time . Harry has never been too bothered about that lifestyle.

Tell me if Kate had these accusations would you think she was also manipulative and destroying the family? , or would you think she's been the victim of a smear campaign hmm I think the latter .

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Stop the whole "Harry stands by and watches" , he's a grown man not a child , he's been trying to get away from royal duties for a long time . Harry has never been too bothered about that lifestyle.

Tell me if Kate had these accusations would you think she was also manipulative and destroying the family? , or would you think she's been the victim of a smear campaign hmm I think the latter .

No, Kate would be forgiven straight away because she's white.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.

Oh no, I understand victims often do not report at the time and stuff. BUT, it seemed like it was reported and seemingly ignored also given its rearing its head now, years later.

So yeah, certainly not blaming the alleged victims here. Of course the 'powerful people' stuff would put off many from making a complaint. But...they did complain at the time, so the issue clearly was not that they feared the royals or anything.

Genuinely wouldn't be surprised though if it turns out proven. Its just...the royals response, of brushing it under the carpet instead of doing an investigation a the time,. then throwing it out there years later, for whatever reason. An investigation that should have been done ages back..if now simply being used as leverage to me..

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

I don’t entirely agree with that Vicky. Yes, the ‘men in grey suits’ were very wrong to hush it up; they did it to protect Meghan’s reputation, which is still wrong, and they need to be held to account for that, but I don’t think it is much worse than the actual bullying itself which have left girls traumatized to this day.
My understanding is that the people in question wanted their side of the story known as Meghan is going to give hers. A one sided account wouldn’t be fair on anyone.

Men in grey suits?! Sounds like a movie..assume its been mentioned on this thread though so will read back a bit.. actually very curious about that!

Originally Posted by Cherie

I disagree, if people can get justice in later life for sexual assault carried out when they were kids, there should be no issue with this as I assume records were kept at the time

It should not have been swept under the carpet at the time, and it shouldn't be now either.

Yeah some manage to do it. But..an investigation at the time in MUCH more likely to get to the truth of it, peoples memories will be fresher, possibly cctv recordings, etc.

[Tom4784]

It's quite a privilege to be bored of issues of race, not everyone can afford to be.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Men in grey suits?! Sounds like a movie..assume its been mentioned on this thread though so will read back a bit.. actually very curious about that!
.

The phrase was coined by Diana all those years ago to describe the male palace Aides - the press have been using it ever since.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

Well said!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Stop the whole "Harry stands by and watches" , he's a grown man not a child , he's been trying to get away from royal duties for a long time . Harry has never been too bothered about that lifestyle.

Tell me if Kate had these accusations would you think she was also manipulative and destroying the family? , or would you think she's been the victim of a smear campaign hmm I think the latter .

The accusations have nothing to do with being manipulative or destroying the family ...I think you might be getting confused. The manipulation was referring to other behaviour...

As for Harry....he seems quite happy for Meghan to talk so negatively about his family on National Television. The family that have had his back all of his life...Harry does a lot of standing by and watching, its there for all to see. He should be ashamed of himself.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

The accusations have nothing to do with being manipulative or destroying the family ...I think you might be getting confused. The manipulation was referring to other behaviour...

As for Harry....he seems quite happy for Meghan to talk so negatively about his family on National Television. The family that have had his back all of his life...Harry does a lot of standing by and watching, its there for all to see. He should be ashamed of himself.

You don’t know her so unless you do then you referring to her as manipulating is nothing more than you unnecessarily hating her. There’s no actual proof this even happened.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's quite a privilege to be bored of issues of race, not everyone can afford to be.

Making everything about Race is extremely tiresome....Kate has been so respectful in her Role as wife of the Future King...and she and William look very happy together. I think you will struggle to find anyone who would have a bad word to say about her....its nothing to do with being white..pathetic comment.