[Alf]

Used to be known as Russian disinformation now confirmed as real.

People lied

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

Used to be known as Russian disinformation now confirmed as real.

People lied

[Alf]

Get em'

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's not like you. You usually have a 500 word opinion on a matter.

[Alf]

[Oliver_W]

No-one's going to care because Biden is NotTrump(TM) and any criticism of Biden is automatically praise for Trump.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

That's not like you. You usually have a 500 word opinion on a matter.

It's just that sometimes Alf... it seems like you've only just discovered that politics is murky as ****. They all lie, literally all of the time.

[bots]

Rudy is known for his steadfast protection of the truth

Alf, are you familiar with the concept of chain of custody? If you are going to use something as evidence, you have to prove that the item was never in the hands of a third party, something that is pretty basic stuff

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No-one's going to care because Biden is NotTrump(TM) and any criticism of Biden is automatically praise for Trump.

There's also the issue that Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden, and Trump supporters have always been quick to point the same out in relation to the Trump brood's activities and blunders.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's also the issue that Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden, and Trump supporters have always been quick to point the same out in relation to the Trump brood's activities and blunders.

True but I still genuinely think the media swept a lot of the stuff which could (rightly or wrongly) make Biden look back under the rug, to ensure he'd win the election.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

True but I still genuinely think the media swept a lot of the stuff which could (rightly or wrongly) make Biden look back under the rug, to ensure he'd win the election.

well they would wouldnt they, when trump repeated fake news over and over you cant expect them to say ... trump ... yeah lets have another 4 years of him

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's also the issue that Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden, and Trump supporters have always been quick to point the same out in relation to the Trump brood's activities and blunders.

They've got ties to Ukraine. They're putting us all in danger.

I think it's best to get to the truth before they start WW3 for us.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well they would wouldnt they, when trump repeated fake news over and over you cant expect them to say ... trump ... yeah lets have another 4 years of him

What are you talking about?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

True but I still genuinely think the media swept a lot of the stuff which could (rightly or wrongly) make Biden look back under the rug, to ensure he'd win the election.

THere's not much to say about that election really ... complete cluster****. Biden was never a good candidate, Trump was running a massive misinformation campaign, none of the media was offering anything resembling unbiased reporting. I think the world prematurely thought that Biden was the answer to Trump but it was clear within a few months that Biden (to just be totally blunt) is elderly. Not just "old", but elderly. He should be retired.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well they would wouldnt they, when trump repeated fake news over and over you cant expect them to say ... trump ... yeah lets have another 4 years of him

A politician ... Telling lies?!

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

THere's not much to say about that election really ... complete cluster****. Biden was never a good candidate, Trump was running a massive misinformation campaign, none of the media was offering anything resembling unbiased reporting. I think the world prematurely thought that Biden was the answer to Trump but it was clear within a few months that Biden (to just be totally blunt) is elderly. Not just "old", but elderly. He should be retired.

Yups. Say what you want about how they compare as people, but Biden really hasn't been a better President than Trump. No media outlet is or should be obligated to give even or fair coverage, but Shmoe Average really had no chance of getting a clear picture of the election.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's just that sometimes Alf... it seems like you've only just discovered that politics is murky as ****. They all lie, literally all of the time.

The Politicians and their associates aren't the ones I'm expecting to hear the truth from. They're presumed the the criminals here, criminals lie. Now the media on the other hand.

[Alf]

Here's the then President telling us and the media saying he's wrong. Turns out, Trump was right.

[MTVN]

Twitter and Facebook actually censored reporting this at the time because it was apparently disinformation lol, I do agree with Alf here that it's all very shady and will just fuel a lot of people's distrust of the media and big tech companies

[Alf]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Twitter and Facebook actually censored reporting this at the time because it was apparently disinformation lol, I do agree with Alf here that it's all very shady and will just fuel a lot of people's distrust of the media and big tech companies

That laptop was found in a shop, someone had put it in there. My guess would be they wanted it to be found. Did Hunter himself put it in there? Did he want it to be found? Did he want out of the corruption? Is he signing like a canary?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Alf

That laptop was found in a shop, someone had put it in there. My guess would be they wanted it to be found. Did Hunter himself put it in there? Did he want it to be found? Did he want out of the corruption? Is he signing like a canary?

Didn't he put it in for repair?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Didn't he put it in for repair?

I don't know, but if so, I reckon he wanted the information on it to be found.

I assume if it's his laptop then yes, he probably did put it in there.

[bots]

american politics is a mess, i think we all agree on that. The problem is (like here) there are no good options available anymore. There is no easy answer to it either, in fact i don't think there is one at all

[Oliver_W]

Coverage aside, Trump's handling of the pandemic basically gift-wrapped the election to Biden... Now he seems determined to repay the favour even if Kommula Harris is the candidate, she's probably (seen as) too pro-cop to skate by on her skin colour. And even then, she's more of the same-old-same-old that Hillary represented. People voted for Trump in 2016 because they believed he'd bring real change. Did he live up to that? Who knows, but Hillary, Biden, and Harris are just boring old swamp monsters, the embodiment of the status quo.

If 2016 had been Bernie versus Trump, god only knows where we'd be now...

[bots]

the dems are going to get battered in the mid terms, they will lose control of both houses and biden will be powerless for 2 years

[The Slim Reaper]

hunter Biden is a top boy. I'm not even sure what the scandal is supposed to be.

Although I think this non-story being rehashed probably has more to do with an ex KGB spy coming out and saying that they groomed trump for 40 years to use as an asset.