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View Poll Results: Who is at fault?
Referee, for bad judgements 5 27.78%
Referee, for bad judgements
5 27.78%
Harry Kane, for being a choke artist (Missed the 2nd penalty) 8 44.44%
Harry Kane, for being a choke artist (Missed the 2nd penalty)
8 44.44%
Gareth South Gate, for bad management 4 22.22%
Gareth South Gate, for bad management
4 22.22%
Fans, for not believing in England 0 0%
Fans, for not believing in England
0 0%
France, for winning the match 4 22.22%
France, for winning the match
4 22.22%
Qatar, just because 2 11.11%
Qatar, just because
2 11.11%
Other, what? (Add your own) 2 11.11%
Other, what? (Add your own)
2 11.11%
England, because they lost 4 22.22%
England, because they lost
4 22.22%
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Old 12-12-2022, 09:26 AM #26
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Harry Kane, as he should've given someone else a opportunity at the 2nd penalty



and the fans a bit, stop with the ''only sing when ur winning'' thing always stand behind your team pls
yeah, you always stand behind your team 100%
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yeah, you always stand behind your team 100%
yup always do in real life that is


i mean i am a Fortuna fan, and am pretty pleased where we are now, 12th place and full focus on the league too bc no longer in the cup
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tactically Southgate is a bit weak, but he does learn. If you put his constant need to be politically correct to one side, he has created a very good organisation behind the team, and that's no small feat. Also, I don't know of any competent person that is available to take over
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tactically Southgate is a bit weak, but he does learn. If you put his constant need to be politically correct to one side, he has created a very good organisation behind the team, and that's no small feat. Also, I don't know of any competent person that is available to take over

He didn’t learn from his mistakes against Croatia or Italy

I’d keep him on as long as he agreed to have someone there for strategies/ tactics like Potter ..


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I mean, I’m not a football expert, but if a person or team loses, it’s because they’re not as good as their opposition, so the answer is obvious really
Most of the time I would say that you're correct.

There has been the odd game in Football though where a fundamental decision that the Referee got wrong has made a huge impact on the result, especially if the opposition is already a really good team like France, basically it was made nearly impossible for England to win this particular game.
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tactically Southgate is a bit weak, but he does learn. If you put his constant need to be politically correct to one side, he has created a very good organisation behind the team, and that's no small feat. Also, I don't know of any competent person that is available to take over
Tbh Southgate is the only Manager that I trust to have England do well because he seems to be really passionate about the team.
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I'de put it down to lady luck.
... and that is a very strong factor indeed.
So many matches can result in the luck just not being with you.
Good one Kazanne.
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The manager is a loser

i dont know how many more times this has to be illustrated?
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but he is a nice man they say

yep

winners are not
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1) Kane. The missed penalty was the turning point.

2) The ref was bad but England had their chances to level. See point one.

3) Southgate is too cautious. I like that he's careful and defensive but he need to recognise the time to go for it. These opportunities don't come around five or six times in a career but it looks like he gonna need four or five goes at winning a major tournament to actually win it. He needs to recognise its time to become 'Sir' Gareth and go for it.

He also needs to move away from his favourite players. Saka was drawing two defenders for most of the 2nd half but Southgate took him off for Sterling?
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... and that is a very strong factor indeed.
So many matches can result in the luck just not being with you.
Good one Kazanne.
Like Blues vs Sunderland this season.
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certainly not my daddy Gareth Southgate

even if the english fa lets you go, pls know you are always welcome to join us in Sittard in our european domination dream
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