[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I really hope Ali lets her hair down , and tries bonding with the boys more bar Marcello of course.

Bar Nathan, she seemed to bond with Izaaz the most out of the lads.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course but she's not been a nasty piece of work. She reserved and quiet which she already explained is because of be8ng on the spectrum

I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.

To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .

And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for her

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.



To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .



And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for her

That's a big assumption by you, you have no idea how easy or hard it's been for her.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You can be on the spectrum and be a nasty piece of work
One that springs to mind is the autistic guy that stabbed his girlfriend about 26 times to death

My daughter is autistic my partner works in
In a college with special needs

Last week she had a water bottle and a table thrown at her

There are always exceptions and extremes, and I was saying in general. People on the Autistic spectrum can easily misread situations, feel threatened, become overwhelmed and some can lose their tempers as a result. Some can be targeted endlessly because they are different and others can misunderstand them. Therefore, some do have the potential to cause harm to others, just like every other section of society. In general, though, they do not have the intention to be nasty or devious - they can just find social interactions difficult to navigate.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Bar Nathan, she seemed to bond with Izaaz the most out of the lads.

I think that is probably because he is calm, patient, considerate and compassionate as a person. It would make sense for her to be drawn to someone with those characteristics.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's a big assumption by you, you have no idea how easy or hard it's been for her.

My daughter has autism I’ve spent years around young adults on the spectrum and seen first hand how it affects them
To be on that show tells me all I need to know about how much she is affected by her condition
Being a quiet and reserved person can just be part of someone’s personality

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

My daughter has autism I’ve spent years around young adults on the spectrum and seen first hand how it affects them
To be on that show tells me all I need to know about how much she is affected by her condition
Being a quiet and reserved person can just be part of someone’s personality

So because your daughter is autistic you're psychic about every other autistic person and their experiences?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I think that is probably because he is calm, patient, considerate and compassionate as a person. It would make sense for her to be drawn to someone with those characteristics.

And her friendship with Lily.?

[thesheriff443]

Just to add I’m not invested in any one on the show it’s just a watered down version of a once great social experiment

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So because your daughter is autistic you're psychic about every other autistic person and their experiences?

If you spend any time around those on the spectrum you would understand what I’m talking about

They don’t like change they like routine they like there own company

Social events cause them distress

I’m saying if she was that affected by her condition she would never be on the show

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.

To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .

And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for her

I’m a teacher with a specialism in ASD, and have worked closely with people on the spectrum for many years. People on the Asperger’s end of the spectrum can be highly intelligent and have great careers, as they are more likely to have the skills to manage their symptoms more effectively.

However, Autism isn’t about IQ, it’s about difficulties in reading other people, and in navigating social settings and interactions, because they have a very literal understanding of language. I would agree with you that Ali doesn’t have extreme traits of Autism, but I would guarantee her tendencies would still make life confusing and challenging for her.

To say that it is an excuse, rather than an actual problem, shows a total misunderstanding of the condition, which surprises me when you’ve shared that you have a daughter with Autism. Before you judge Ali in this way, perhaps consider if you would like people misjudging or dismissing your child in this way.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Beso

And her friendship with Lily.?

Just like everyone else, people on the spectrum can have different types of friendships.

Personality wise, Ali seems like a caring, compassionate and protective person, and this might draw her to Lily. She might also recognise Lily, like herself, as being someone who has difficulties fitting in socially, so could well be connecting with her for this reason.

I would imagine that when Lily is out of control, loud and chaotic, she would want to calm her down in order to make the environment around her calmer, and I would also imagine there are many parts of the day when she would need time out from Lily’s company.

Remember, we are only shown short extracts over about 45 minutes on each main show, and considering the number of people in there, and the number of interactions that would occur over a 24 hour period, a full picture of what is happening will be unknown to us.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You can be on the spectrum and be a nasty piece of work
One that springs to mind is the autistic guy that stabbed his girlfriend about 26 times to death

My daughter is autistic my partner works in
In a college with special needs

Last week she had a water bottle and a table thrown at her

It is true, but there are exceptions.

Those who are on the autistic spectrum may have behaviours that challenge, more often than not it's a way of communicating.

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not let them define me."

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[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I’m a teacher with a specialism in ASD, and have worked closely with people on the spectrum for many years. People on the Asperger’s end of the spectrum can be highly intelligent and have great careers, as they are more likely to have the skills to manage their symptoms more effectively.

However, Autism isn’t about IQ, it’s about difficulties in reading other people, and in navigating social settings and interactions, because they have a very literal understanding of language. I would agree with you that Ali doesn’t have extreme traits of Autism, but I would guarantee her tendencies would still make life confusing and challenging for her.

To say that it is an excuse, rather than an actual problem, shows a total misunderstanding of the condition, which surprises me when you’ve shared that you have a daughter with Autism. Before you judge Ali in this way, perhaps consider if you would like people misjudging or dismissing your child in this way.

My daughter isn’t on a reality television show

As to being judged we all do it every second of the day

Don’t you dare try to undermine my experience of the system and those on it

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Bar Nathan, she seemed to bond with Izaaz the most out of the lads.

Well she mentioned forming an ' alliance ' with Nathan. I wish they'd show more of her conversations with the other guys. I heard that she's speaking more to them on live feed , hopefully it makes some of the HL tonight.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Just like everyone else, people on the spectrum can have different types of friendships.

Personality wise, Ali seems like a caring, compassionate and protective person, and this might draw her to Lily. She might also recognise Lily, like herself, as being someone who has difficulties fitting in socially, so could well be connecting with her for this reason.

I would imagine that when Lily is out of control, loud and chaotic, she would want to calm her down in order to make the environment around her calmer, and I would also imagine there are many parts of the day when she would need time out from Lily’s company.

Remember, we are only shown short extracts over about 45 minutes on each main show, and considering the number of people in there, and the number of interactions that would occur over a 24 hour period, a full picture of what is happening will be unknown to us.

If it's so unknown to us, why are you totally disregarding peoples opinions about ali, and her level of adhd, when you've not had the full.picture either.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Never change a thing thing, Zizu. To me, people with ASD, are the most wonderful people to spend time with, and I’ve often said the world would be a better place if everyone was autistic. My dream has always been to own some land in the countryside, to use as an animal sanctuary, and for everyone who works there to be on the spectrum. That would be such a blissful existence.

You will have an understanding of Ali that many people won’t have, and will be aware that people on the spectrum are generally upfront and honest - they don’t usually have a sly or devious nature in my experience, as they find it difficult to lie.

And you are right to mention how exhausting it is to have these conditions, and be in a social setting for a long period of time, as it becomes overwhelming. This is why Ali is bound to withdraw from the group at some points, and just decompress. That isn’t her being aloof, which is how it can be interpreted.

Oddly enough I do volunteer forestry work and help out at an animal sanctuary … pot bellied pigs , horses, donkeys, goats ( so many goats ) lambs, geese , ducks and various types of chickens

Oh and cats and a dawg


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[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I never said she was nasty but people making assumptions that it’s because she is on the spectrum that’s the way she is.

To get a good career while being on the spectrum gives me a clear indication that she is only slightly affected by it .

And it’s more of an excuse than an actual problem for her

She's not on the autism spectrum though

She has ADHD. There is a difference between the two even though they're both neurological conditions.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Beso

If it's so unknown to us, why are you totally disregarding peoples opinions about ali, and her level of adhd, when you've not had the full.picture either.

It would help if people could stop saying she has autism when those words never came out her mouth.

I stand to be corrected.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

It would help if people could stop saying she has autism when those words never came out her mouth.



I stand to be corrected.

Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health...84106-20241009

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health...84106-20241009

Ah, I missed what she said them

They can go hand in hand and symptoms can he present.

First time I've heard it called AuDHD

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health...84106-20241009

Interesting

I have both also ( plus dyslexia) but this is the first I have heard of the term AuDHD


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Apparently she's diagnosed with ADHD and also exhibits autistic traits
https://www.ladbible.com/news/health...84106-20241009

…it’s interesting that each condition massively contradict each other as one is more based in structure and order….whereas with ADHD…it’s more spontaniety and chaos, if you like…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s interesting that each condition massively contradict each other as one is more based in structure and order….whereas with ADHD…it’s more spontaniety and chaos, if you like…

That’s precisely why its sooooo exhausting and frustrating !


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