[Swan]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

From what I have seen they both enjoy each others company. Both are happy to be touchy with one another. They bonded from the get go as both are fun natured characters. The other housemates are just jealous. Ella as she didn't get her rebound showmance or the attention she craves from Chris and the other housemates cannot compete.

They are young, fun and living life and making the most of the show, unlike Patsy and Ella.

There is an incredible amount of sexual tension there. Live feed shows it more.

[GlitterUK]

I don't see why people need to put a label on them. They are being themselves and are not harming anyone. What they do, who they choose to spend their time with is up to them. I can understand Ella feeling jealous as she wanted to be the one craving Chris' attention and her game plan doesn't have a plan B sadly.

They should have added another single male into the mix from the start.

[Swan]

They're all going to sleep early tonight, booo. Anyway, more all over each other in bed.

[Swan]

Platonic guys

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

All this flirting, and touchy feelyness with Chris, can't be nice to see for her partner? Any time the issue is raised during L&L it's usually shut down because she's "gay". The HL shows are pretty tame too, they leave out about 90% of their intimate interactions. Regular live feed watchers will know their relationship is a lot more intimate than what we see on the nightly HL's. I mean, just a recent example, JoJo rubbing Chris' inner thigh when they were in the hot tub together the other night. Sorry, but how is that platonic? Ali was saying last night "well JoJo identifies as a gay women, and she's set clear boundaries with Chris, and that he's always the one coming on and jokingly shut down". That's clearly not the case!

I know it's a touchy subject, but i think it's pretty obvious she fancies Chris, as he does her. They are literally all over each other, just last night they were in bed together, Chris between her legs, her rubbing his shoulders and chest. I dunno, it must be awful for her partner to witness.

People will say "she's gay, end off" but i think it's a bit more complex than that tbh. I don't know how much more obvious it could be that she fancies him.

The definition of a Lesbian - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...nglish/lesbian

I can't 100% speak for Chris, but Jojo doesn't fancy Chris.

Unless she's lying about being a Lesbian, which is just shocking if that's the case.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The definition of a Lesbian - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...nglish/lesbian

I can't 100% speak for Chris, but Jojo doesn't fancy Chris.

Unless she's lying about being a Lesbian, which is just shocking if that's the case.

I believe she prefers women, but she's not 100% lesbian based on her behaviour with Chris, she's curious and obviously fancies him. See Matt's post in this thread, spot on.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe she’s spent too long with her LGBT friends and non binary / pan sexual guys so when she’s spent time with a normal , straight guy in Chris … it’s actually blown her mind to what she’s possibly been missing

Tbh, those Frying Pan's really get me going down below.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I don't see why people need to put a label on them. They are being themselves and are not harming anyone. What they do, who they choose to spend their time with is up to them. I can understand Ella feeling jealous as she wanted to be the one craving Chris' attention and her game plan doesn't have a plan B sadly.

They should have added another single male into the mix from the start.

Or Ella could've tried being an interesting Housemate.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

I believe she prefers women, but she's not 100% lesbian based on her behaviour with Chris, she's curious and obviously fancies him. See Matt's post in this thread, spot on.

I think that she's just being playful with him.

Kind of like how Pete Bennett was with the women in his year of BB.

[GlitterUK]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Or Ella could've tried being an interesting Housemate.

Is she interesting in Towie? Never watched it. Not sure she is capable, all she does is cry.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

Is she interesting in Towie? Never watched it. Not sure she is capable, all she does is cry.

I don't watch TOWIE either tbh.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I understand the sentiment behind people not wanting to invalidate her sexuality etc but she is still young, she has dated men before and she did previously identify as pansexual I believe. She's also said she's not sure about her gender identity so there could definitely be some all round confusion there. It shouldn't be fully off limits to say that. Plus she's also spoken quite sympathetically about polygamy

I think this is key here - people are making assumptions that her partner would have an issue with it even if something is going on, we have no idea if that's the case at all, we have no idea what the expectations or boundaries of that relationship are and whether or not there's an issue with it is entirely their business.

I have an issue with Chris' behaviour because I find him emotionally manipulative and think he knows fine well what he's doing. I don't think there would be an issue beyond that. Her sexuality and the confines of her other relationships are really not relevant to anyone else... most people are just coming from a perspective of "well I wouldn't like it if it was MY partner!" and I fully agree with that... it's not for me, either, at this level - I don't think close male/female friendships are an issue and the hugging/comforting/messing around is all fine, the upper thigh rubs and thinly-coded conversations are where it goes "too far for me". BUT. That's my feelings and my relationship an there should be no expectation that other people's relationships follow the same "rules". There are no "rules".

I think people take the reaction to Mickey's comments as evidence that Jojo's partner would be against this but there's really no evidence of that. Mickey made Jojo feel uncomfortable and made comments that upset her. That's the difference. She wasn't "flirting with Mickey" he was being gross.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think that she's just being playful with him.

Kind of like how Pete Bennett was with the women in his year of BB.

Yes but then we know how that ended up, poor Pete got himself into a right ol' pickle with a few situations .

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I think this is key here - people are making assumptions that her partner would have an issue with it even if something is going on, we have no idea if that's the case at all, we have no idea what the expectations or boundaries of that relationship are and whether or not there's an issue with it is entirely their business.

I have an issue with Chris' behaviour because I find him emotionally manipulative and think he knows fine well what he's doing. I don't think there would be an issue beyond that. Her sexuality and the confines of her other relationships are really not relevant to anyone else... most people are just coming from a perspective of "well I wouldn't like it if it was MY partner!" and I fully agree with that... it's not for me, either, at this level - I don't think close male/female friendships are an issue and the hugging/comforting/messing around is all fine, the upper thigh rubs and thinly-coded conversations are where it goes "too far for me". BUT. That's my feelings and my relationship an there should be no expectation that other people's relationships follow the same "rules". There are no "rules".

I think people take the reaction to Mickey's comments as evidence that Jojo's partner would be against this but there's really no evidence of that. Mickey made Jojo feel uncomfortable and made comments that upset her. That's the difference. She wasn't "flirting with Mickey" he was being gross.

When Mickey said that old jokey line about being able to ‘turn’ JoJo the whole LBGT world went crazy as he was making light of her lesbianism … move forward a few days and she’s practically married to Chris




( they are actually more affectionate and physically compatible than some married couples)