[bots]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I'm going to be blunt Zizu and say that if I or others are making incorrect assumptions about your behaviour or intent, those assumptions are based on many of your other posts on here. You say things like this a lot. You make judgemental posts about young women (specifically), a lot.

stop being blinking personal

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Not sure why my post was deleted - the point was if you are sad about the lack of attention a cause you care about is getting but you're doing nothing to CREATE that attention, you have no leg to stand on.

Pride is so big because LGBT people made it so big. Do I hate the corporate side of it? Yes, to a degree absolutely, but the reason it's gotten corporate support it because of a lot of LGBT people creating a movement that got so big commercial entities saw it as potentially commercially beneficial.

If you want funding, if you want flags, if you want attention, if you want column inches, if you want parades, if you want content, literally nothing is stopping you creating it.

I know that..but this bloke is getting a hell if a lot of stick for doing just that by the LGBTQ community, both on here and outside of here.


A paragraph from the initial story.

He said in a video shared last week on the bar’s Instagram account that he had reached out to a number of corporations who have donated to LGBTQ Pride celebrations over the years to ask if they would support the event, and they told him they typically only donate to registered nonprofits. As a result, he said, he created the nonprofit Heterosexual Awesomeness Inc., which will host the festival, though he hasn’t heard back from any major donors yet.




Perhaps the uproar people have created is stopping his funding...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bots

stop being blinking personal

I'd take your suggestion a little more seriously if you'd ever shown an inclination to ask Livia (for example; there are others) to stop being personal ... but you won't, so I'll file your suggestion away under "no, if I'm going to stay on this forum it's not going to be to put my feet up and enable people's weirdness". Zizu makes weird comments about women on endless threads, and his post about "people watching" a young lesbian couple in the supermarket is fkn bizarre. If we can't point this stuff out I just don't know what to say. lol.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

I know that..but this bloke is getting a hell if a lot of stick for doing just that by the LGBTQ community, both on here and outside of here.


A paragraph from the initial story.

He said in a video shared last week on the bar’s Instagram account that he had reached out to a number of corporations who have donated to LGBTQ Pride celebrations over the years to ask if they would support the event, and they told him they typically only donate to registered nonprofits. As a result, he said, he created the nonprofit Heterosexual Awesomeness Inc., which will host the festival, though he hasn’t heard back from any major donors yet.




Perhaps the uproar people have created is stopping his funding...

It’s probably more because he’s doing it as a negative reaction to something else rather than a celebration.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I'd take your suggestion a little more seriously if you'd ever shown an inclination to ask Livia (for example; there are others) to stop being personal ... but you won't, so I'll file your suggestion away under "no, if I'm going to stay on this forum it's not going to be to put my feet up and enable people's weirdness". Zizu makes weird comments about women on endless threads, and his post about "people watching" a young lesbian couple in the supermarket is fkn bizarre. If we can't point this stuff out I just don't know what to say. lol.

Says the man who watches and describes his ex bookie punters almost weekly to each and every one of us right here on TIBB.

[user104658]

Do you fancy quoting a post to go with that, Parmy? I'll assume you can quote 52 from the last year. But I'll settle for one. Watching random people that is; not interacting with people, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you understand what the difference is.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It’s probably more because he’s doing it as a negative reaction to something else rather than a celebration.

Yes. A negative reaction to public lewdness. Has brought on the desire for a more wholesome way of celebrating and promoting things.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yes. A negative reaction to public lewdness.

Oh I thought we couldn't make ANY assumptions about his reasons for doing it without talking to him? Thank you, though, for FINALLY admitting that you know fine well why the event has been created - not that it wasn't obvious that everyone already knew what the event is and why it's been made - but the constant pretending that it "wasn't a backlash" and was just a completely normal, unrelated event was getting quite tiring.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yes. A negative reaction to public lewdness. Has brought on the desire for a more wholesome way of celebrating and promoting things.

Yeah ok, if you say so.

If he wanted an actual celebration he could pick any time of year. He’s chosen specifically to run it when he has as a negative reaction. That’s not a celebration.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Do you fancy quoting a post to go with that, Parmy? I'll assume you can quote 52 from the last year. But I'll settle for one. Watching random people that is; not interacting with people, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you understand what the difference is.

Oh I can't be bothered with all that, but you do go on about their appearance a lot.

You made me shiver there, thinking about checking your posts. Clicking them hoping to find something, imagine having to sort through all that gumpf.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Oh I thought we couldn't make ANY assumptions about his reasons for doing it without talking to him? Thank you, though, for FINALLY admitting that you know fine well why the event has been created - not that it wasn't obvious that everyone already knew what the event is and why it's been made - but the constant pretending that it "wasn't a backlash" and was just a completely normal, unrelated event was getting quite tiring.

He said it himself, it's quoted in the story.

I was pointing out to Ben that that would be what he was reacting to if it was a reaction ti something rather than a celebration. Unless he's lying of course, then you both may be correct. But we can only go on what we have in front of us, and that is the story, and what the man has said in the story.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah ok, if you say so.

If he wanted an actual celebration he could pick any time of year. He’s chosen specifically to run it when he has as a negative reaction. That’s not a celebration.

Yeah, to highlight a more wholesome way to celebrate that doesn't involve public lewdness.

There's plenty space for both to take place.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yeah, to highlight a more wholesome way to celebrate that doesn't involve public lewdness.

There's plenty space for both to take place.

You asked though why he wasn’t getting funding. I’ve said, that’s probably why.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

I know that..but this bloke is getting a hell if a lot of stick for doing just that by the LGBTQ community, both on here and outside of here.


A paragraph from the initial story.

He said in a video shared last week on the bar’s Instagram account that he had reached out to a number of corporations who have donated to LGBTQ Pride celebrations over the years to ask if they would support the event, and they told him they typically only donate to registered nonprofits. As a result, he said, he created the nonprofit Heterosexual Awesomeness Inc., which will host the festival, though he hasn’t heard back from any major donors yet.

Perhaps the uproar people have created is stopping his funding...

The guy is getting stick because his intentions are poor.

If you create an event as a way to create further division, and not in good faith but out of spite and as a reaction, do not expect many corporations to step up and fund it. He isn't owed ****. More than that, funding any kind of social 'movement' is a marketing strategy and it's about return on investment - perhaps they understand an event like this won't really gain any traction because it isn't actually necessary. Every day people are celebrating heterosexuality. Nobody is being truly persecuted anywhere in the world for being straight and so who would sponsor an event that is effectively redundant and pointless. It's poor business. And on a purely superficial level, who would sponsor an event with a name Hetero Awesome Fest

However, I was actually talking about Women's History Month and the (fake) outrage levelled at lack of attention to it.

Or am I assuming those outraged at it receiving so little attention, while Pride receives lots, have worked tirelessly in campaigning to bring attention to it, obtain funding, create parades and fundraisers and have been blocked at every corner? (even though they didn't know it existed until pointed out to them on a Big Brother forum because they don't actually care and aren't actually bothered about Women's History Month they were just using it as a stick to beat pride with lmao). A very cliched and transparent tactic.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You asked though why he wasn’t getting funding. I’ve said, that’s probably why.

We covered that. You then said..."Yeah, if you say so"

Then put your own view about the man being deliberate in his actions. Im like, yeah, so what. He wants to promote something he sees as more wholesome in comparison, and I then made a point of there being enough room for both. You then replied again, pointing out something I was already aware of, which has led me to reply by repeating what is already obvious in our previous couple of posts.

[Cherie]

Tbf to Zizu, I think we all people watch especially when standing in a queue at the supermarket not sure that its that weird a thing to do?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

The guy is getting stick because his intentions are poor.

If you create an event as a way to create further division, and not in good faith but out of spite and as a reaction, do not expect many corporations to step up and fund it. He isn't owed ****. More than that, funding any kind of social 'movement' is a marketing strategy and it's about return on investment - perhaps they understand an event like this won't really gain any traction because it isn't actually necessary. Every day people are celebrating heterosexuality. Nobody is being truly persecuted anywhere in the world for being straight and so who would sponsor an event that is effectively redundant and pointless. It's poor business. And on a purely superficial level, who would sponsor an event with a name Hetero Awesome Fest

However, I was actually talking about Women's History Month and the (fake) outrage levelled at lack of attention to it.

Or am I assuming those outraged at it receiving so little attention, while Pride receives lots, have worked tirelessly in campaigning to bring attention to it, obtain funding, create parades and fundraisers and have been blocked at every corner? (even though they didn't know it existed until pointed out to them on a Big Brother forum because they don't actually care and aren't actually bothered about Women's History Month they were just using it as a stick to beat pride with lmao). A very cliched and transparent tactic.

Just that top part...
If you create an event as a way to create further division, and not in good faith but out of spite and as a reaction, do not expect many corporations to step up and fund it.


You are making assumptions, which in turn creates division when you air it in public. Your head is to far up your own arse for you to realise that.


The 2nd part about women's MONTH.. it's basically for schools. Women's day is the celebration. The same celebration that people with their heads to far up their own arses as well use to widen any divide that already existed by heckling and abusing women celebraring their womanhood.

[Livia]

It's not that I don't care about women's issues, I just don't think that everyone needs a month to wave their flags. There are only twelve months in a year, after all, how are all the aggrieved going to be fitted in? And maybe I missed Women's Month because it wasn't pushed down all our throats. There were no flags up in my bank, there was for Pride month. There wasn't a general jumping on the bandwagon by businesses wanting to show their support for DEI (as far as that goes...), The BBC programmes are all well and good if you watch programmes created by an organisation who think women can have penises and who create shortlists that exclude people, regardless of their qualifications. The BBC can;t put together a VE day tribute without depicting a 40s family that was comprised of black and other ethnic people. Seriously, who would turn to them for information?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf to Zizu, I think we all people watch especially when standing in a queue at the supermarket not sure that its that weird a thing to do?

Me neither.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

We covered that. You then said..."Yeah, if you say so"

Then put your own view about the man being deliberate in his actions. Im like, yeah, so what. He wants to promote something he sees as more wholesome in comparison, and I then made a point of there being enough room for both. You then replied again, pointing out something I was already aware of, which has led me to reply by repeating what is already obvious in our previous couple of posts.

He was deliberate in his actions, that’s quite clear.

But you asked why he wasn’t getting any sponsors. I answered you with why I think why. You then suggested it was in reaction to public lewdness, to which I pointed out that’s not a celebration, it’s a reaction. Not sure what else you’d like me to say. I was answering the questions you asked and points you raised.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

He was deliberate in his actions, that’s quite clear.

But you asked why he wasn’t getting and sponsors. I answered you with why I think why. You then suggested it was in reaction to public lewdness, to which I pointed out that’s not a celebration, it’s a reaction. Not sure what else you’d like me to say. I was answering the questions you asked.

Yep..and the reaction has caused a celebration that some people have a reaction to..


Nuff room and money for both eh.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf to Zizu, I think we all people watch especially when standing in a queue at the supermarket not sure that its that weird a thing to do?

Yeah I wouldn’t say it’s weird. I love people watching. Sitting in a coffee shop and people watching is great.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yep..and the reaction has caused a celebration that some people have a reaction to..


Nuff room for both eh.

I don’t care when he runs it, or if he wants to run. I have better things to worry about. I was just pointing out one of the reasons he’s not getting sponsors.

[BBXX]

I don't think people watching is weird, I think watching the same specific person as you go round the shop is odd, and then making up stories about how she was looking for a fight because she seemed 'edgy' and then using her as an example in reply to a post I made weird... yeah, I find that weird.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Just that top part...
You are making assumptions, which in turn creates division when you air it in public. Your head is to far up your own arse for you to realise that.

He has specifically stated himself he launched it to coincide with Pride month because he is against homosexuality. I'm not making assumptions.