[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It’s probably more because he’s doing it as a negative reaction to something else rather than a celebration.

Yes. A negative reaction to public lewdness. Has brought on the desire for a more wholesome way of celebrating and promoting things.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yes. A negative reaction to public lewdness.

Oh I thought we couldn't make ANY assumptions about his reasons for doing it without talking to him? Thank you, though, for FINALLY admitting that you know fine well why the event has been created - not that it wasn't obvious that everyone already knew what the event is and why it's been made - but the constant pretending that it "wasn't a backlash" and was just a completely normal, unrelated event was getting quite tiring.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Oh I thought we couldn't make ANY assumptions about his reasons for doing it without talking to him? Thank you, though, for FINALLY admitting that you know fine well why the event has been created - not that it wasn't obvious that everyone already knew what the event is and why it's been made - but the constant pretending that it "wasn't a backlash" and was just a completely normal, unrelated event was getting quite tiring.

He said it himself, it's quoted in the story.

I was pointing out to Ben that that would be what he was reacting to if it was a reaction ti something rather than a celebration. Unless he's lying of course, then you both may be correct. But we can only go on what we have in front of us, and that is the story, and what the man has said in the story.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yes. A negative reaction to public lewdness. Has brought on the desire for a more wholesome way of celebrating and promoting things.

Yeah ok, if you say so.

If he wanted an actual celebration he could pick any time of year. He’s chosen specifically to run it when he has as a negative reaction. That’s not a celebration.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah ok, if you say so.

If he wanted an actual celebration he could pick any time of year. He’s chosen specifically to run it when he has as a negative reaction. That’s not a celebration.

Yeah, to highlight a more wholesome way to celebrate that doesn't involve public lewdness.

There's plenty space for both to take place.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yeah, to highlight a more wholesome way to celebrate that doesn't involve public lewdness.

There's plenty space for both to take place.

You asked though why he wasn’t getting funding. I’ve said, that’s probably why.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You asked though why he wasn’t getting funding. I’ve said, that’s probably why.

We covered that. You then said..."Yeah, if you say so"

Then put your own view about the man being deliberate in his actions. Im like, yeah, so what. He wants to promote something he sees as more wholesome in comparison, and I then made a point of there being enough room for both. You then replied again, pointing out something I was already aware of, which has led me to reply by repeating what is already obvious in our previous couple of posts.

[Cherie]

Tbf to Zizu, I think we all people watch especially when standing in a queue at the supermarket not sure that its that weird a thing to do?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf to Zizu, I think we all people watch especially when standing in a queue at the supermarket not sure that its that weird a thing to do?

Me neither.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf to Zizu, I think we all people watch especially when standing in a queue at the supermarket not sure that its that weird a thing to do?

Yeah I wouldn’t say it’s weird. I love people watching. Sitting in a coffee shop and people watching is great.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf to Zizu, I think we all people watch especially when standing in a queue at the supermarket not sure that its that weird a thing to do?

It would depend on how long he was staring at them for, and if he was deliberately following them around imo.

Which my belief from what I've seen from Zizu on here, is that I don't believe him to be stalking women.

Speaking for myself though, I tend to avoid eye contact with strangers as much as possible.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

We covered that. You then said..."Yeah, if you say so"

Then put your own view about the man being deliberate in his actions. Im like, yeah, so what. He wants to promote something he sees as more wholesome in comparison, and I then made a point of there being enough room for both. You then replied again, pointing out something I was already aware of, which has led me to reply by repeating what is already obvious in our previous couple of posts.

He was deliberate in his actions, that’s quite clear.

But you asked why he wasn’t getting any sponsors. I answered you with why I think why. You then suggested it was in reaction to public lewdness, to which I pointed out that’s not a celebration, it’s a reaction. Not sure what else you’d like me to say. I was answering the questions you asked and points you raised.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

He was deliberate in his actions, that’s quite clear.

But you asked why he wasn’t getting and sponsors. I answered you with why I think why. You then suggested it was in reaction to public lewdness, to which I pointed out that’s not a celebration, it’s a reaction. Not sure what else you’d like me to say. I was answering the questions you asked.

Yep..and the reaction has caused a celebration that some people have a reaction to..


Nuff room and money for both eh.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yes. A negative reaction to public lewdness. Has brought on the desire for a more wholesome way of celebrating and promoting things.

Public lewdness is a possibility at the Hetro Awareness event.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Public lewdness is a possibility at the Hetro Awareness event.

I will say, I don't agree with some of the more extreme (albeit rare) half-nakedness in some Pride parades - I think Pride Parades should be a fun thing for all the family to watch and so should be age-appropriate.

There is an element of showcasing kinks sometimes and I think that has its place, but in an adults-only environment.

Having said that, I've attended a few parades over the years and the most extreme I have seen are a a few guys wearing leather trousers and leather waistcoats and a few people with pup masks on... it's not anything explicit (you'd see more flesh on a beach and the leather has never been revealing!) and to a kid the pup masks would be totally innocent, but I can absolutely see why some might take umbrage with it.

However, Prides aren't new and so while I think it wouldn't hurt to tame a couple of aspects down a little, nobody is being forced to watch. If someone thinks it inappropriate for their child, they're free not to attend. People know what to expect.

But your point is correct - the idea straight people can't be lewd is ridiculous.

[Ammi]

….I'm not going to join this discussion but for @BBXX ….I was reading this …

‘Straight pride events in the past have had a woefully sad history. In 2019 a group called Happy Fun America held one in Boston where counter-protesters far outnumbered those marching. The same was true at an concurrent event in California. And what could be considered the start of the movement occurred in 2015 in Seattle when activist Anthony Rebello promoted a Straight Pride parade. LGBTQNation writes "he invited thousands of people via Facebook, writing: 'In the name of equality & equal rights, I have created this event to celebrate our right to be heterosexual, and to encourage younger heterosexuals that they should be proud of their heterosexuality.'"

At the parade, he marched alone with a hand-held cardboard sign.’

…so in regards to any funding/sponsorship as you and Benjamin have said…it obviously doesn’t have that wide belief in its motivation …(…atm…)…to have that and is presumably a very small minority….

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Ammi

….I'm not going to join this discussion but for @BBXX ….I was reading this …

‘Straight pride events in the past have had a woefully sad history. In 2019 a group called Happy Fun America held one in Boston where counter-protesters far outnumbered those marching. The same was true at an concurrent event in California. And what could be considered the start of the movement occurred in 2015 in Seattle when activist Anthony Rebello promoted a Straight Pride parade. LGBTQNation writes "he invited thousands of people via Facebook, writing: 'In the name of equality & equal rights, I have created this event to celebrate our right to be heterosexual, and to encourage younger heterosexuals that they should be proud of their heterosexuality.'"

At the parade, he marched alone with a hand-held cardboard sign.’

…so in regards to any funding/sponsorship as you and Benjamin have said…it obviously doesn’t have that wide belief in its motivation …(…atm…)…to have that and is presumably a very small minority….

LOL, that's funny. I would say I hope he was suitably embarrassed but that would require a level of emotional intelligence and self awareness I don't think someone organising such a thing would be able to comprehend.

A straight pride will never gather mainstream popularity because most people have a basic level of education which enables them to understand that pride isn't about celebrating men having sex with men, it's about celebrating turning the tide on historical prejudices, discriminatory laws, decades of widespread homophobia and mistreatment as well as continuing campaigning for certain issues still taking place across the World.

It would be mighty odd for straight pride to really exist in any widespread capacity when none of that applies to heterosexuality.

However I will see it's also strange for this man, who is so devout in his religion is goes by the word of God whatever God says (lol yeah right) would create a pride-based celebration of sexuality when pRiDe iS a sIn.

It's almost like, once again, he doesn't actually care about the teachings of God, just the ones that make him feel icky for some reason he can't put his finger on.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBXX

LOL, that's funny. I would say I hope he was suitably embarrassed but that would require a level of emotional intelligence and self awareness I don't think someone organising such a thing would be able to comprehend.

A straight pride will never gather mainstream popularity because most people have a basic level of education which enables them to understand that pride isn't about celebrating men having sex with men, it's about celebrating turning the tide on historical prejudices, discriminatory laws, decades of widespread homophobia and mistreatment as well as continuing campaigning for certain issues still taking place across the World.

It would be mighty odd for straight pride to really exist in any widespread capacity when none of that applies to heterosexuality.

However I will see it's also strange for this man, who is so devout in his religion is goes by the word of God whatever God says (lol yeah right) would create a pride-based celebration of sexuality when pRiDe iS a sIn.

It's almost like, once again, he doesn't actually care about the teachings of God, just the ones that make him feel icky for some reason he can't put his finger on.

…see, the/any religious connection has great relevancy for me because I was brought up as a Catholic and always had the mindset instilled on me that God/Jesus Christ was all loving …but actually I was actually just now deep in thought, not specifically about any Pride celebrations as such but how there still isn’t an equality of love …my specific thoughts were of some work colleagues and how I recall one year we had two staff marriages celebrated one year, a few years back…?…one was a heterosexual union and the other was a homosexual….long story short, for the heterosexual wedding, the bride was allowed at the school to show a beautiful photograph album of special the day and say…’this is my husband’….with the homosexual wedding…?…he wasn’t allowed to do the same with his year group and always advised to stay vague in his introduction of his partner at any school events…’this is a friend’, type thing….anyway, not related to the topic but just pondering why some things are very rightfully celebrated…