[MTVN]

Who organises these things these days? EDL aren't really a thing anymore but I know UKIP are trying to move to a street movement type organisation

[Cherie]

Say it loud, say it clear Refugees are welcome here...correct

Are there any refugees in the hotels though

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Who organises these things these days? EDL aren't really a thing anymore but I know UKIP are trying to move to a street movement type organisation

Definately something planned with all these protests popping up

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Governments are going to walk us into civil war

No, violent racist thugs are going to keep attacking people because they don’t like minorities

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Who organises these things these days? EDL aren't really a thing anymore but I know UKIP are trying to move to a street movement type organisation

There’s apparently apps out there where all the luckier daggers collect and organise riots across the country, professional agitators

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No, violent racist thugs are going to keep attacking people because they don’t like minorities

People are sick to death of their quality of life diminishing because the government has not got enough money, the majority of these people could be processed and allowed to work legally but that wouldn't suit the hotel owners, longest asylum process in Europe, the country is a joke led by a clown

First it was the pensioners who were targetted
Then the farmers
then the disabled
now future pensioners....

no wonder the young aren't keen on working

kinda against your narrative that it was mainly older men and women in the counter protest in Diss...

[Glenn.]

�� UK Government Spending (2024–25)

Ranked by Amount Spent
1. Social protection (pensions, benefits) – £313 billion
2. Health (NHS) – £193 billion
3. Debt interest payments – £110 billion
4. Education – £89 billion
5. Transport & infrastructure – £45 billion
6. Public order & safety (police, justice) – £45 billion
7. Housing & communities – £38 billion
8. Defence – £37.6 billion
9. Science, research & digital – £17 billion
10. Environmental protection – £14 billion
11. Foreign aid – £7.5 billion
12. Culture, media & sport – £7 billion
13. Illegal immigration (estimated total) – £5 billion

The maths isn’t mathing

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

�� UK Government Spending (2024–25)

Ranked by Amount Spent
1. Social protection (pensions, benefits) – £313 billion
2. Health (NHS) – £193 billion
3. Debt interest payments – £110 billion
4. Education – £89 billion
5. Transport & infrastructure – £45 billion
6. Public order & safety (police, justice) – £45 billion
7. Housing & communities – £38 billion
8. Defence – £37.6 billion
9. Science, research & digital – £17 billion
10. Environmental protection – £14 billion
11. Foreign aid – £7.5 billion
12. Culture, media & sport – £7 billion
13. Illegal immigration (estimated total) – £5 billion

The maths isn’t mathing

Think you will find illegal immigration is part of social care not a separate issue, notice it is the only one with an estimated total as well lol

The government could take the heat out of the situation and make a statement to the effect that they are working on a solution as per their manifesto promise but so far just radio silence, think they want it to kick off

[Beso]

A nice video of an ex addicts recovery. A walk and a chat round blackburn, including exclusive access to that Muslim ceremony where they all slap their bare chests.


Very insightful Muslim input.

https://youtu.be/gtCn0JAcnuM?si=DvkY9S415oFCmXxm

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Think you will find illegal immigration is part of social care not a separate issue, notice it is the only one with an estimated total as well lol

The government could take the heat out of the situation and make a statement to the effect that they are working on a solution as per their manifesto promise but so far just radio silence, think they want it to kick off

It’s not included in social care. It is in fact a separate issue.

You see you’re angry at the immigrants because they want you to be angry at the immigrants.

[Cherie]

And I hope you realise Glenn that alot of illegal migrants who come here end up on benefits, so will be part of No. 1 on your list...

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liam-

There’s apparently apps out there where all the luckier daggers collect and organise riots across the country, professional agitators

Probably a lot of the same people who were National Front in the 90s, BNP in the noughties, EDL in the 2010s

I do sympathise with the broader issue but there's always so many dodgy characters trying to take advantage

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

And I hope you realise Glenn that alot of illegal migrants who come here end up on benefits, so will be part of No. 1 on your list...

They’ll join the rest of people born and bred in the country then won’t they. But still very separate.

You claim there’s no money for pensioners and yet we spend more money on pensioners than anything else.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s not included in social care. It is in fact a separate issue.

You see you’re angry at the immigrants because they want you to be angry at the immigrants.

You misunderstand but that is natural, I am not angry with immigrants, I am angry at the toothless incompetent government who have given their mates 10 year hotel contracts and cheap labour ...you are welcome

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

They’ll join the rest of people born and bred in the country then won’t they. But still very separate.

You claim there’s no money for pensioners and yet we spend more money on pensioners than anything else.

Do we, how do you make that out, we have the lowest pension rate in Europe, the triple lock was brought in to bring pensioners in line with Europe, still lagging behind. I don't claim it your government took away their winter fuel allowance

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You misunderstand but that is natural, I am not angry with immigrants, I am angry at the toothless incompetent government who have given their mates 10 year hotel contracts and cheap labour ...you are welcome

I don’t seem to recall you ever being this angry when migrants were in hotels under the tories, must be a new thing you’re suddenly paying attention to for some reason

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do we, how do you make that out, we have the lowest pension rate in Europe, the triple lock was brought in to bring pensioners in line with Europe, still lagging behind. I don't claim it your government took away their winter fuel allowance

Did you read the list I posted? You can read the amounts paid yeah? I mean it’s there in black and white.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Probably a lot of the same people who were National Front in the 90s, BNP in the noughties, EDL in the 2010s

I do sympathise with the broader issue but there's always so many dodgy characters trying to take advantage

Yeah its a gift to the bad actors in all this

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t seem to recall you ever being this angry when migrants were in hotels under the tories, must be a new thing you’re suddenly paying attention to for some reason

I believe I was? You just need to go back over my posts, this government came in with a manifesto pledge to smash the gangs, how is that going for you?

[Beso]

A group of worried mothers and fathers have organised this protest, after complaints from their children.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Did you read the list I posted? You can read the amounts paid yeah? I mean it’s there in black and white.

Pensions and benefits lumped together, yes it is there, can you tell me which costs more? State pension is not a benefit or at least it wasn't until governments tried to lump it in with benefits, anyone can claim benefits, you need to have worked for 35 years and paid in to get a full state pension, it is not a benefit, people have worked for it

[Cherie]

Well I say anyone can claim benefits, I know numerous people who have been made redundant but couldn't claim anything until they had run through their redundancy

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Pensions and benefits lumped together, yes it is there, can you tell me which costs more? State pension is not a benefit or at least it wasn't until governments tried to lump it in with benefits, anyone can claim benefits, you need to have worked for 35 years and paid in to get a full state pension, it is not a benefit, people have worked for it

Pensioner Spending
£174.9 billion
Working-Age Benefits
£141.2 billion
Disability & Health Benefits
£75.3 billion
Housing Support
£35.3 billion
Total
£426.7 billion

[bots]

The state pension is an investment account that people pay into throughout their working lives, they then get that pot that they paid into back in a monthly payout when they retire. It's not a handout by government

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bots

The state pension is an investment account that people pay into throughout their working lives, they then get that pot that they paid into back in a monthly payout when they retire. It's not a handout by government

And that is why it is so disingenous to lump it in with benefits
Next they will be telling us that Occupational Pensions are a benefit because we pay in to those too, as does the employer

State pension is only paid as a benefit if the recipient has never worked