[Parmy]

Funnny though, TIBB that is.

Through the TIBB years I've tried to bring you John's story.Time and time again, it was somewhat ignored then.


Takes major gossip to tantalize TIBB.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They were in tears over the symptom of a disability? Jesus, god knows how they cope watching anything else he's in.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The BBC continue to show their true colours ,I honestly can't stand them . They pick and choose what to edit out ,this was on purpose on their part .

But I still think it's a bit patronising for people to be told " oh chill it's just tourettes" or
" educate yourself", Michael B Jordan & Delroy Lindo still have a right to feel uncomfortable and upset, especially when they were never told beforehand that something like this could happen , whilst they're on stage . The impact is still there . And it sounds like their feelings are being tossed to the side.

You can still have an understanding of a disability ,whilst still acknowledging the consequences. 2 things can still be correct...which seems to be getting misunderstood.

…yeah they’re no small organisation, they’re top of their game and managed the other edits so that’s not good, is it…

…and absolutely I agree, that’s been my thoughts from the start of knowing about it…I completely feel for the actors also and for others in that auditorium in that moment also…as you say GH, completely and absolutely…two things can be correct and empathised with and understood from their perspective at the same time…this wasn’t for me something that would gain any understanding at all from making a choice…

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's such an awful condition really. Such a shame that he was there being honoured for a film trying to raise some awareness for the condition and it ends up causing all this misunderstanding and people basically saying he's using his disability to be a horrible person.

I think plenty of people know about tourettes,they just hate being told not to be offended by a word that carries a lot of historical pain .

Most of the comments I've seen is people telling others to basically " shut up and calm down" , like it's no big deal that the BBC didn't edit it out .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think plenty of people know about tourettes,they just hate being told not to be offended by a word that carries a lot of historical pain .

Most of the comments I've seen is people telling others to basically " shut up and calm down" , like it's no big deal that the BBC didn't edit it out .

Oh I agree but lots of the comments I've seen are people saying that John is basically using his conditions to be racist or implying that he can control what he shouts but chooses not to or that even if he can't he must be racist because someone who isn't would never even think of that word. Clearly zero understanding of his condition

[Parmy]

A pretty young tourettess woman wouldn't have been questioned by that racist pig, Foxx

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I should stop reading because I've sent my algorithm into over drive now, but most of these people commenting clearly have no idea how his condition works. Saying things like "he must be racist because otherwise the N word wouldn't be in his vocabulary", sorry but EVERYONE knows the N word and it's history, that's exactly why someone with his condition would say it, like shouting he has a bomb in an airport etc. People saying "Oh funny how he happened to say the N word when it was black actors on stage" again, you clearly do not understand how this condition works....... People saying "why was he there?" Um because the disability that you witnessed in action was deemed worthy enough to make a whole movie about and the actor who played him won Best Actor for his portrayal of him

Apparently he called Alan Cummings a Paedo when he made a joke about taking Paddington home, I dont see any major fallout about that, its just people being offended for the sake of it, if he called me an Irish **** I dont think it would bother me too much given the context

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think plenty of people know about tourettes,they just hate being told not to be offended by a word that carries a lot of historical pain .

Most of the comments I've seen is people telling others to basically " shut up and calm down" , like it's no big deal that the BBC didn't edit it out .

"Historic pain" feels like an excuse to bang the drum and continue the witch hunt. No-one from that far back is alive today, while John Davidson is, and the internet bloodsports he's facing are worse than hearing a nasty word.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Apparently he called Alan Cummings a Paedo when he made a joke about taking Paddington home, I dont see any major fallout about that, its just people being offended for the sake of it, if he called me an Irish **** I dont think it would bother me too much given the context

It seems like it's a total lack of understanding though which is causing people to not accept that he didn't actual say these things with malicious intent

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Apparently he called Alan Cummings a Paedo when he made a joke about taking Paddington home, I dont see any major fallout about that, its just people being offended for the sake of it, if he called me an Irish **** I dont think it would bother me too much given the context

Was it actually aired or cut out when he yelled " paedo " ? , I know people are saying he was yelling all sorts of obscene stuff . But the editing is weird .

I mean like I said 2 things can still be correct ,we can appreciate the guy has tourettes but people can also feel some type of way . Especially in the environment as well, you're on stage ,you don't exactly expect that to happen.

[Zizu]

A few people online saying he told the Queen to ***** off … proving he clearly has no control


Don’t know if it’s true though

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Parmy

A pretty young tourettess woman wouldn't have been questioned by that racist pig, Foxx

What a silly hypothetical comparison . interesting you think Foxx is the racist instead of The BBC themselves .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Was it actually aired or cut out when he yelled " paedo " ? , I know people are saying he was yelling all sorts of obscene stuff . But the editing is weird .

I mean like I said 2 things can still be correct ,we can appreciate the guy has tourettes but people can also feel some type of way . Especially in the environment as well, you're on stage ,you don't exactly expect that to happen.

He's issued a statement :

Scottish Tourette's syndrome activist and the real-life inspiration for I Swear, John Davidson, made headlines at the 79th BAFTA Awards when his involuntary vocal tics interrupted the ceremony, most notably during an outburst of racial slurs. At the same time, Sinners stars Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting an award.

Davidson has also since reached out to the studio handling "Sinners" to directly apologise to Jordan, Lindo, and production designer Hannah Beachler.

Now, Davidson has spoken out, offering his perspective on the incident in an email interview with Variety.
When asked how he would explain Tourette's to people who think it's 'just swearing', John Davidson said the media often focuses on coprolalia, the involuntary use of obscene or offensive language, which affects only 10–30% of people with Tourette’s and that it's not a criterion for diagnosis.

Davidson emphasised that the real challenge is the widespread misconceptions surrounding the condition.

"Understanding the full range of Tourette’s helps reduce stigma and supports everyone living with the condition," he wrote.

He went on to describe it as one of the hardest tics to manage, causing distress and leading to discrimination and isolation. He then admitted that he can't even begin to explain how upset and distraught he has been as the impact from Sunday sinks in.

On whether he knows a tic is coming, Davidson explained that he has almost no ability to suppress them. In stressful situations, tics can burst out involuntarily, like “a gunshot,” leaving him with no control over the timing or content.

When tics involve slurs or taboo words, he stressed that they “have absolutely nothing to do with what I think, feel or believe.” He described them as involuntary neurological misfires that do not reflect his character or values.

He explained that Tourette’s can make your body or voice do things you don't mean, and sometimes those tics land on the worst possible words.

He wrote: "I want to be really clear that the intent behind them is zero. What you’re hearing is a symptom — not my character, not my thought, not my belief.

"Tourette’s can feel spiteful and search out the most upsetting tic for me personally and for those around me. What you hear me shouting is literally the last thing in the world I believe; it is the opposite of what I believe.

"The most offensive word that I ticked at the ceremony, for example, is a word I would never use and would completely condemn if I did not have Tourette’s."

He also explained the circumstances surrounding his tics at the ceremony that took place this past Sunday.

"I would appreciate reports of the event explaining that I ticked perhaps 10 different offensive words on the night of the awards.

"The N-word was one of these, and I completely understand its significance in history and in the modern world, but most articles are giving the impression I shouted one single slur on Sunday."

Considering what went into the decision to attend in person, Davidson wrote: "This was an awards ceremony that featured six nominations connected to a film that told the story of my life living with Tourette’s. This has been a three-year project for me, working with the writer, director, production and cast. I am also an active executive producer on the film. I had as much right to attend as anyone," per Variety.

Reflecting on the BAFTA Awards, Davidson said that StudioCanal and BAFTA should have anticipated his tics and edited the broadcast accordingly.


https://www.joe.ie/news/john-davidso...Rqb4JEedlA4fcA

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

A few people online saying he told the Queen to ***** off … proving he clearly has no control


Don’t know if it’s true though

Gosh, I guess the entire British internet needs to clutch their pearls and act like total melts over it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Was it actually aired or cut out when he yelled " paedo " ? , I know people are saying he was yelling all sorts of obscene stuff . But the editing is weird .

I mean like I said 2 things can still be correct ,we can appreciate the guy has tourettes but people can also feel some type of way . Especially in the environment as well, you're on stage ,you don't exactly expect that to happen.

No I believe it was left in, the thing is though if the BBC did cut the N word we would have not known why the two actors on stage were so stunned, in some ways I think they would have left all his outbursts in because that is the reality of his life, we can sanatise for our own sensibilities but what is the point in that, this is the reality Tourettes suffers face every day, it cant be swept under the carpet, its like a wheelchair user being asked to leave it at home in case they roll over someones toes

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What a silly hypothetical comparison . interesting you think Foxx is the racist instead of The BBC themselves .

He saw a pasty faced white man and shouted racist...he wouldn't have done that with a pretty young lady.

[Parmy]

This is the original QED documentary from 1988, John would be 16 in this.

https://youtu.be/wxfJDpd3XcY?si=pfYuEcUrteDeWCIa

[Oliver_W]

Omg

[GiRTh]

This thread is already drifting into a very familiar pattern. The narrative has somehow shifted again, and we’re all meant to pretend it’s organic rather than convenient.

Reading this without any knowledge of the actual incident, you’d honestly come away thinking Foxx and Richardson were the main villains here — not the BBC or BAFTA. That’s how skewed the framing has become.

And now we’re back to scraping around for something — anything — on Richardson and Foxx. Classic move. When the original angle doesn’t land, just rewrite the narrative, point somewhere else, and insist, “No no, look over here, this one is much worse.” It’s desperation dressed up as outrage, and it’s getting painfully predictable.

[bots]

A story doesn't last this number of news cycles unless there are people with agendas behind it. For me, it's important to note that it happened and try and learn some lessons from it. But that's where the story ends

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

"Historic pain" feels like an excuse to bang the drum and continue the witch hunt. No-one from that far back is alive today, while John Davidson is, and the internet bloodsports he's facing are worse than hearing a nasty word.

You seem to be saying that people should just “get over it.” If that’s not what you meant, please correct me, because that’s exactly how your post reads.

And if we apply that same logic to other communities, it falls apart immediately. Should Jewish people “get over” the Holocaust because so few survivors are still alive? By your reasoning, they should — which is obviously an incredibly dismissive and harmful stance.

That’s why your comment comes across as minimising. Calling it “historic pain” doesn’t erase the impact, and it definitely doesn’t justify telling people their reaction is a “witch hunt.” The comparison you’re making reduces real harm to a footnote, and that’s why the post feels so dismissive.

[arista]

Great points GiRTh

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

You seem to be saying that people should just “get over it.” If that’s not what you meant, please correct me, because that’s exactly how your post reads.

And if we apply that same logic to other communities, it falls apart immediately. Should Jewish people “get over” the Holocaust because so few survivors are still alive? By your reasoning, they should — which is obviously an incredibly dismissive and harmful stance.

That’s why your comment comes across as minimising. Calling it “historic pain” doesn’t erase the impact, and it definitely doesn’t justify telling people their reaction is a “witch hunt.” The comparison you’re making reduces real harm to a footnote, and that’s why the post feels so dismissive.

Exactly

I wonder if an anti-Semitic slur had been shouted out , if the BBC & The Baftas would have censored it out ? .

[Parmy]

You're talking about a word that's branded around on every gaming server like it's the norm. Nobody blinks an eye atbuts use in movies, claiming it shows reality.

The BBC were on this occasion correct to air what happened as it highlights almost everything surrounding this illness.

You have John himself unable to hold the word in and blurting it out for the world to see, still embarrassed and ashamed enough like g is 16 yr old self, to get up and leave, to sit alone to make it easier on everyone. Like his 16 yr old self did.

You have the 2 award presenters, seemingly unaware there was a guy with tourettes in the audience. Hearing the shout, yet staying calm and dignified like everyone should when confronted by a tourettes outburst.


Then you've got Foxx, the ignorant tosser over the other side of the street, ignorant to everything about anything. Pointing and shouting like every bully John has endured his whole life.

[Crimson Dynamo]

cant wait to see the film now

great publicity for it