[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So naive....ALL MTV shows are pretty much staged as is most Reality TV. American reality TV STRIVES on 'drama' and since the Real World is pre-recorded it's very easy for the producers to tell participants how to act, producers want drama and contestants want media careers so they work together. It's the same as the hills. Life is nothing like what you see on The real World, they're not real people they're just talentless hacks trying to get their 15 minutes.

BB do use twists to manipulate situations but they ultimately don't tell HM's how to act, it's a gameshow so it's meant to have twists and tasks. The comparision in your post is pretty terrible.

all your statements have nothing behind them to back them up. it is nothing like the hills they even have totally different filming styles ffs

it like me says that BB must be fake because hollyoaks has actors

the things that you are saying are all the things that BBUK haters say about BBUK

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

all your statements have nothing behind them to back them up. it is nothing like the hills they even have totally different filming styles ffs

We've had this argument before and me and Stu managed to put down any point you came up with. If I remember right you never did manage to prove it wasn't faked... You stalled a lot but never actually could prove it to us that it was all real.

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

it like me says that BB must be fake because hollyoaks has actors

That's one of the silliest comparisions I've ever seen. When has Hollyoaks ever claimed to be a reality Show? TRL and The Hills are a good comparision because they both claim to be 'reality' shows. Next time you try to disprove a point find a comparision which works.

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

the things that you are saying are all the things that BBUK haters say about BBUK

I've never heard anyone claim that BB is faked on here or in real life. Clasping at straws are we? Plus the BB comparision is sucky because they have different styles entirely, BB happens as we watch it and the Crew never interact with the HM's apart from the Diary roomunlike MTV shows where the Crew can talk to them any time between shots, directing them and such. This isn't possible on BB otherwise it'd look more like any MTV reality show, Badly acted.

[King Gizzard]

This is a bit silly

[Wildcat!]

I have wathched it since like 9 years old. Its a very good show, and the whole BB concept was based for the Real World.
You can get hooked especially if you watch the RW/RR challenges. I just finished watching the ruins, and it so much fun to see guys come back and do the challenges. BB should think about doing that, it could save their franchise.

Favorites of all time, CT from Paris, and Coral, I forgot where she was from.

[Braden]

i'll watch this seasons,
if i can get hold of it

[Stacey.]

no thanks

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We've had this argument before and me and Stu managed to put down any point you came up with. If I remember right you never did manage to prove it wasn't faked... You stalled a lot but never actually could prove it to us that it was all real.



That's one of the silliest comparisions I've ever seen. When has Hollyoaks ever claimed to be a reality Show? TRL and The Hills are a good comparision because they both claim to be 'reality' shows. Next time you try to disprove a point find a comparision which works.



I've never heard anyone claim that BB is faked on here or in real life. Clasping at straws are we? Plus the BB comparision is sucky because they have different styles entirely, BB happens as we watch it and the Crew never interact with the HM's apart from the Diary roomunlike MTV shows where the Crew can talk to them any time between shots, directing them and such. This isn't possible on BB otherwise it'd look more like any MTV reality show, Badly acted.

Its not fake. Yeah they have some dramatization, but most of the time its totally real. There are real bloody fights on the Real World sometimes, things that would never be allowed on BB, so in that aspect, i think its more real, because thy are not restricted as to waht they should say or do. Some have gotten arrested, and gone to jail during the show.
Some have shown racism, homophobia, and they dont get kicked out of the show for it, because its something that happens in real life.

Really if you havent watched a whole season, of the real world, or their challenges, I would recommend it, and I guarantee, most of the people who like BB, would love it.

[Stu]

It's real only in the sense that the people in front of the camera are not CGI and there is no script. Apart from that everything is exagerrated. Nobody actually acts like they do all the time on camera. To give you a compaison it's like a group of mates recording themselves drunk for YouTube. And even if your not sure what is exagerrated and what is not, thats also a problem. How can you watch something like that?

Big Brother on the other hand is real from the side that matters, the housemate side. Certain tasks are added and twists introduced but only in the hope that it will make something happen between the housemates who really are living in a locked house with each other 24/7 for real.

We all have our obsessions but most of us manage not to introduce them to almost every aspect of our posts and most of us are not naive enough to realise our obsessions are ours alone and that we probably wont change anyones opinions.

[Wildcat!]

The way they act on the Real World is, exactly how meat head frat boys in the States act. I know, I use to be one of them. that might not look real to a British guy, but trust me thats how they are. And the cast is usually full of those types, and most of them are in their early 20s. And they drink and party a lot, with no restrictions, thats why it seems over the top, but its not fake at all.

BB being real, is only in the name. I like the show, but I know for a fact most of them dont act like they normally do in real life. In that sense, I think Real World is more real, because they dont hold back their personalities, to please viewers. Its not a popularity contest, so they are themselves, period They have nothing to gain by being otherwise. It might be hard to believe, but most of the people I knew, that age, in the States, are like the kids on the real word. And thats not the case on BB.

[Stu]

Actually the opposite of what you said is true. The cameras don't always run in every corner in the Real World so these meatheads now how to act up the meathead imagine and when.

In Big Brother you live in that enclosed space and the cameras are always running. You cannot keep up a gameplay or a personality in that environment for long. Year after year a group of people get crucified on it due to this.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I have wathched it since like 9 years old. Its a very good show, and the whole BB concept was based for the Real World.
You can get hooked especially if you watch the RW/RR challenges. I just finished watching the ruins, and it so much fun to see guys come back and do the challenges. BB should think about doing that, it could save their franchise.

Favorites of all time, CT from Paris, and Coral, I forgot where she was from.

that made me so happy to read!!!

I'm not to sure on CT but he can be very funny, when he smack davis and then in the confession said that he was just playing hard to get lol. I prefer Ace to CT.

Coral is great , probably my favourite cast member, she was from Back To New York by the way

[Wildcat!]

Haha! Yeah I know it sucks when no one on this site seem to know much about them. Ut I dont think I have ever missed one series. The Brooklyn one and Hollywood were good too. And Sara did great in the ruins, finished 2nd I think. And whats the name of that tall black girl from hollywood?

I remember ACE, I think he showed up in Real World Hollywood and got drink with Dave right?

BUt honestly, I think their loss, for people who have never seen it, or watched a season all the way through. They dismiss it as some sort of a fake show. Oh well, I have seen them long enough to know everything about it, and even had some friends audition for it a few years ago.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Stu

Actually the opposite of what you said is true. The cameras don't always run in every corner in the Real World so these meatheads now how to act up the meathead imagine and when.

In Big Brother you live in that enclosed space and the cameras are always running. You cannot keep up a gameplay or a personality in that environment for long. Year after year a group of people get crucified on it due to this.

you need to actually watch it, all it is is 45 minutes of your time and if you still dont like it after that then fair do's

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Haha! Yeah I know it sucks when no one on this site seem to know much about them. Ut I dont think I have ever missed one series. The Brooklyn one and Hollywood were good too. And Sara did great in the ruins, finished 2nd I think. And whats the name of that tall black girl from hollywood?

Kelly Anne, she was from sydney, I LOVE HER. did you see The Island she was probably the most entertaining cast mate on that season. The whole did her and dunbar **** or not was hilarious

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I remember ACE, I think he showed up in Real World Hollywood and got drink with Dave right?

Yes i think i remember that, was that when they all met Janelle as well?

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

BUt honestly, I think their loss, for people who have never seen it, or watched a season all the way through. They dismiss it as some sort of a fake show. Oh well, I have seen them long enough to know everything about it, and even had some friends audition for it a few years ago.

very true, but it just makes me so sad that people are missing out on one of the most entertaining show on the earth when they havent even given it a chance

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

you need to actually watch it, all it is is 45 minutes of your time and if you still dont like it after that then fair do's

No. I don't need to watch it. Stop assuming we will grow to like things because you like them. I know what it is thus I don't need to watch it to know I don't like it.

I know what **** is. I don't need to smear it on my chest and take a nibble off it to realise that I don't, in fact, like **** very much.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Stu

No. I don't need to watch it. Stop assuming we will grow to like things because you like them. I know what it is thus I don't need to watch it to know I don't like it.

I know what **** is. I don't need to smear it on my chest and take a nibble off it to realise that I don't, in fact, like **** very much.

but you obviously don't know what it is because you havent seen an single episode

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Toasteee

i'll watch this seasons,
if i can get hold of it

too late. all of the earlier episodes have gone of the torrents

your just going to have to wait untill someone uploads the whole season and from my experience with the challenge nobody does that

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

Kelly Anne, she was from sydney, I LOVE HER. did you see The Island she was probably the most entertaining cast mate on that season. The whole did her and dunbar **** or not was hilarious


Yes i think i remember that, was that when they all met Janelle as well?


very true, but it just makes me so sad that people are missing out on one of the most entertaining show on the earth when they havent even given it a chance

Actually I was talking about Brittany. The one who came as a replacement,when that douchebag got fired.

But I like Kellyann, and she is hot.
I hate those 3 guys who win all the time, and form a big alliance. I think its Kenny, Jonny bananas, and someone else.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

but you obviously don't know what it is because you havent seen an single episode

Of course I know what it is. You don't have to watch something to know what it is.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Actually I was talking about Brittany. The one who came as a replacement,when that douchebag got fired.

But I like Kellyann, and she is hot.
I hate those 3 guys who win all the time, and form a big alliance. I think its Kenny, Jonny bananas, and someone else.

yes, so do I, the next challenge is Fresh Meat II, so hopefully we will get some new strong guys that can break that alliance up

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Stu

Of course I know what it is. You don't have to watch something to know what it is.

well yes you do, and from your description of what it is you obviously have no idea what it is.

at the end of the day if your to narrow minded to be able to give something a chance its your problem not mine

im just here to try and show people the light

Think of me as Jesus Christ

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

too late. all of the earlier episodes have gone of the torrents

your just going to have to wait untill someone uploads the whole season and from my experience with the challenge nobody does that

You can find some torrents if you look. BUt I am able to watch episodes on the MTV site directly. All you have to do is download and install Hotspot shield, and you browse the internet as if youre in the USA, so you dont get that stupid outside your region message.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

You can find some torrents if you look. BUt I am able to watch episodes on the MTV site directly. All you have to do is download and install Hotspot shield, and you browse the internet as if youre in the USA, so you dont get that stupid outside your region message.

thanks for that. i might be able to watch the dailies now

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

yes, so do I, the next challenge is Fresh Meat II, so hopefully we will get some new strong guys that can break that alliance up

Fresh meat 2. That is cool!!!

I know I am sick of that alliance too. The producers shoulndt put them in together. Id like to see Johnny go in alone. I use to like Evan, but he has become a douchebag too. I loved it when Nehemiah stood up to them on the duel 2, but he was alone so!!

Looking forward to DC and fresh meat 2 though!

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

thanks for that. i might be able to watch the dailies now

Yeah you will! ANd it works with any TV show you want to watch on the US network sites. ITs a great tool to have.