[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

He is right about that - in abortions where the fetus is more than about 6 weeks old!

Wow, I didnt know that...sounds rough.

Im pretty sure though that there were people further on than 6 weeks when I was there...and they just had the same thing as me done...tablet the day before and one the day after.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Wow, I didnt know that...sounds rough.

Im pretty sure though that there were people further on than 6 weeks when I was there...and they just had the same thing as me done...tablet the day before and one the day after.

An early medical abortion (taking tablets) is usually performed up until about 8-9 weeks, a vacuum procedure is used between about 7 to 14/15 weeks whilst later - chemical and surgical procedures induce miscarriage!

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

12 year olds are not adults in any way, sexually or otherwise.

Its not saying they are fully formed adults in any way just they are now moving on from childhood.

In the Christian and Jewish religions the onset of puberty at 12/13 is marked by ceremonies to celebrate the young persons maturity. Confirmation, Bar Mitzvah. these mark the transition from child to adult and the start of the young persons journey through life. It also marks the start of the person being responsible for their life and the decisions they make.

Note the age of criminal responsibility is 10 in the UK (8 in Scotland)

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Its not saying they are fully formed adults in any way just they are now moving on from childhood.

In the Christian and Jewish religions the onset of puberty at 12/13 is marked by ceremonies to celebrate the young persons maturity. Confirmation, Bar Mitzvah. these mark the transition from child to adult and the start of the young persons journey through life. It also marks the start of the person being responsible for their life and the decisions they make.

Note the age of criminal responsibility is 10 in the UK (8 in Scotland)

"but a muslim is considered an adult at around 12 or 13" - the quote doesn't suggest the start of the journey of growing into an adult - it states that they are considered an adult at 12 or 13 - which I think most would consider a ridiculous concept.

And why would any religion want their children to grow up so quickly. Childhood is precious - and provides a solid foundation for healthy emotional growth - and is most likely to produce well balanced adults.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

"but a muslim is considered an adult at around 12 or 13" - the quote doesn't suggest the start of the journey of growing into an adult - it states that they are considered an adult at 12 or 13 - which I think most would consider a ridiculous concept.

And why would any religion want their children to grow up so quickly. Childhood is precious - and provides a solid foundation for healthy emotional growth - and is most likely to produce well balanced adults.

I dont think its meant to mean at age 12 the young person is suddenly an adult rather its about that age that the young person becomes more mature, more able to make adult decisions, to start becoming more responsible. Obviously if the 13 year old decided to drop out of school or make simialar decisions they would be treated in a more mature way but still wouldnt be allowed full control of their lives.

[Shaun]

Poor woman.

Though I think not tweeting about it would've been a good idea - she has every right to.