[InOne]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

He pretends to the public,but his actual friends are muslims which in secret his a muslim.

I think you better leave this topic to the adults.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

He pretends to the public,but his actual friends are muslims which in secret his a muslim.

No he's not, it's just a way for far-right idiots and racists to try and discredit him

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

He pretends to the public,but his actual friends are muslims which in secret his a muslim.

[ElProximo]

Well he was raised a Muslim and all three of his names identify him as Muslim (all 3 names) but Obama is someone I consider the perfect Harvard 'Secular Man'.
He no more believes in Islam than he believes in that racist half-white preacher at his Church where he was attending for social and political reasons.

One thing quite interesting though - a Muslim denouncing Islam and converting to Christianity is a death penalty in Islam. Huge reason to HATE him with a special passion,
yet,
even the most radical Muslims won't even mention it.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Peter Fonda sounds like he might be a weirdo but I thought Dennis Miller (a US pundit) really called this entire BP/Obama thing bang on when he described the USA political mentality like this:
The BP spill really just proves the issues really don't mean as much as whether or not your 'team' is winning or has won.
Had Bush Jr been sitting President during the spill.. SO HELP US ALL THAT EVIL GODDAMN EARTH KILLING NAZI!
HOly **** on a Stick you can just see the placards of the Vampire Bush with oil dripping off his fangs. PROOF Bush and Cheney are EVIL GAIYA MURDERING Darth Vader effing....

But because (in this case) their guy is sitting in the winning spot it isn't something involving the President.
Never mind that it was the Presidents party hard at work for decades that pushed oil rigs far off shore (barely even mentioned) or anything to do with the President.
Really, Obama's name (in any sense of blame or lack) never even came up much at all in any of that.

But as Miller calls it - really this has more to do with 'turf' than anything else. That their guy has the ground. So the issue is important (or not) by that standard.

Anyways, I'm surprised he can get much of a documentary out of the whole thing. It was tragic in lives lost but didn't affect the coast too much.

Dennis Miller is a Neocon idiot, and a failed comedian. Stop watching Fox Noise's spin machine!

[letmein]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Very few places in the USA had signs saying 'Whites' and 'Non-Whites'.



That is definitely not the case if you listen to Americans (black or white) who are old enough to remember there were tremendous distinctions made between 'light-skinned blacks' and then dark-skinned blacks. In some parts of the USA there were serious cultural divides. You can even read of the 'paper bag' tests at various clubs and bars where one had to be no darker than a paper bag.



He had a boost with Bin Laden but then again people (rightly or wrongly) also seem to associate the original mission and even the military men as a 'Bush' cause. Not that it hurt Obama either.

But he is not popular across the board. He has low approval ratings and I'm not sure why you are saying 'compared to the Republican jokers' because they may not have a 'Messiah' prepared and preordained like Obama was by Democrats,
but,
they have strong players like Herman Cain and Santorum though Christie could be a real big (no pun intended) big deal IF he did run.

I'd say this.. IF (and we have to see how they develop yet) but IF you got a Cain-Christie run against Obama?
Are you REALLY sure Obama would be safe? I'd suggest Cain sends Obama home like a Principal expelling a bad student.

ElProximo = exactly the reason why non-Americans should cease from discussing American politics.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

He pretends to the public,but his actual friends are muslims which in secret his a muslim.

lol. Oh, lawd.

[joeysteele]

I don't think we get his real self and thoughts from him,a bit of an enigma.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

He pretends to the public,but his actual friends are muslims which in secret his a muslim.

You have a point,he does seem to try to be all things to all people,as I said above he's a bit of an enigma and his ancestry is certainly muslim.

I've never been sure whether I understood where his real self is where and what he wants it to be.Whether that makes him even likeable.To me he seems a very dismissive individual.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by letmein

Dennis Miller is a Neocon idiot, and a failed comedian. Stop watching Fox Noise's spin machine!

Did you know informed political junkies actually refer to Miller as something like a 'Litmus Test' to catch out the most out-of-touch deluded liberal lefties?
IF you think Miller is a 'NeoCon' you are one.
In reality, Miller is, by any reasonable standard, very much in the middle and is really quite liberal socially and quite moderate financially.

Miller is a highly successful comedian and one of the biggest earners in comedy today. He can even charge premium subscriptions for podcasts which are not from Fox News.

Even though I rarely watch Fox News and even rarer have I ever seen Miller on Fox News I do watch Fox sometimes and enjoy it.
Because parrots like you are so far deluded the only explanation you can come up with is that Fox must be 'brainwashing' its viewers tells me just how brainwashed and easily manipulated you must be.

But back to the point:
What Miller said about Obama and Bush is something you know is true and would happen,
and,
in fact, you KNOW that YOU YOURSELF would be absolutely full-on forum posting and squawking about that goddamn Dick Cheney poisoning the seas and demanding 'Impeachment' over Bush and the oil spill.

You know Miller is right and it makes you angry inside. You know it lol

[hannah.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

He pretends to the public,but his actual friends are muslims which in secret his a muslim.

..... what?!

[Niall]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

He pretends to the public,but his actual friends are muslims which in secret his a muslim.

Are you insane? Baseless accusations like this prove some people really need to stfu about American politics and stay away from the serious debates section.

'in secret he's a muslim' Jesus Christ I mean really?

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Did you know informed political junkies actually refer to Miller as something like a 'Litmus Test' to catch out the most out-of-touch deluded liberal lefties?
IF you think Miller is a 'NeoCon' you are one.
In reality, Miller is, by any reasonable standard, very much in the middle and is really quite liberal socially and quite moderate financially.

Who would these 'informed political junkies' be? I love the way you throw around your opinionated anecdotes and half-truths as hard facts. No wonder you profess to enjoying Fox News.

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Miller is a highly successful comedian and one of the biggest earners in comedy today. He can even charge premium subscriptions for podcasts which are not from Fox News.

Even though I rarely watch Fox News and even rarer have I ever seen Miller on Fox News I do watch Fox sometimes and enjoy it.
Because parrots like you are so far deluded the only explanation you can come up with is that Fox must be 'brainwashing' its viewers tells me just how brainwashed and easily manipulated you must be.

But back to the point:
What Miller said about Obama and Bush is something you know is true and would happen,
and,
in fact, you KNOW that YOU YOURSELF would be absolutely full-on forum posting and squawking about that goddamn Dick Cheney poisoning the seas and demanding 'Impeachment' over Bush and the oil spill.

You know Miller is right and it makes you angry inside. You know it lol

I expect that when anybody objects to you telling them what they think, you'll instantly whine and complain you are being marginalised by the liberal conspiracy.

It's interesting to note Miller is a complete and utter relativist on the issue of free speech. He advocated the arrest of people who said anything untoward in the aftermath of 9/11 to be arrested as a terrorist suspect (in a country that detains and tortures terrorist suspects).

Youtube video

Lets say the shoe was on the other foot and you were arbitrarily arrested for incitement to hate crime. Your beloved and apparently moderate Dennis Miller thinks free speech ought not to count if you are liable to piss people off. You aggravate and annoy people routinely with your views (which I won't go into). Miller is a cliche. He is the kind of person who would scream 'censorship' when called out out on his political incorrectness, but won't afford those who disagree with him even basic civil liberties.

[Stu]

I'm here for the stupidity gala.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

It's interesting to note Miller is a complete and utter relativist on the issue of free speech. He advocated the arrest of people who said anything untoward in the aftermath of 9/11 to be arrested as a terrorist suspect (in a country that detains and tortures terrorist suspects).

Youtube video

Interesting opinionated anecdote with no hard facts but why do you say that about Miller?
You posted a video showing Miller advocating the near opposite so did he change his mind?
Did he write this in an article somewhere?

Or is this one of you 911 'Truther' conspiracies?