[Beso]

Makes a change from Shaaron prodding away at Jay in his sly manner(task failures, bad mouthing)

I say, well done Jay you handled yourself well.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

and you think jay looking like a "twat" is a good thing?
really? jay is a twat?

remind me again who is the twat, when Aaron has spend 2/3 of his time in the house throwing strops and giving people the "silent treatment" (as if aaron not talking is really a punishment) lol. Aaron is there because he's a drama queen. end of. He's the biggest drama queen in the house since makosi.

If you believe an y word that's come out of Aaron's mouth throughout the enitre series, well, then yur confusing to me.

2/3 of his time? Really? and you know this because you've got live feed access or what?

Personally, I prefer a person who goes away and doesn't speak to people until he's calm rather than a person who threatens violence and rants and raves.

Yes, I think Jay is a twat. He's ridiculously disgusting, doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

[MARTITA]

Finally sombody has said somthing to aaron. This has needed to be said for some time. I thought Jay was clear and not aggressive at all. It was about time sombody confronted Aaron about his bizaar, manipulative sneaky behaviour.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MARTITA

Finally sombody has said somthing to aaron. This has needed to be said for some time. I thought Jay was clear and not aggressive at all. It was about time sombody confronted Aaron about his bizaar, manipulative sneaky behaviour.

Oh really? Saying that he was going to be following him around and be in his face for the next three days is normal and not aggressive behaviour? Ok, poppet

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by GabbygalEvs

we all see things differently even jay said in the end he went ott when he said he'll follow him around for the next three days going on about it

if he can admit that was wrong why cant the jay fans?

Same reason why some Aaron fans wont admit when Aaron is in the wrong.

Imo... Jay did go a bit overboard but it wasnt bullying & agree with some of what Jay said to Aaron.
Aaron needs to grow up & stop acting like a sulky child and Jay needs to learn how to get his point across without getting angry.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by boomoo

No. BB told him to try and sort things out.

I think you'll find that Jay's rantathon was after he had a talk with Aaron in the garden about how he's ruining everyone's last week and he then went back inside to bitch about Aaron with his puppypack. Aaron then came inside the house and the rantathon began. So BB had nothing to do with it as that was the previous day when Jay tried to break down the b/room door.


I really don't understand why they couldn't keep to the subject of the argument though. Aaron nailed Louise on all she was trying to say and as for blaming Aaron for Faye being evicted from the house - Jay was so wrong there as it was his girlfriend who put her up and the voting public who evicted her - Aaron had absolutely nothing to do with it.

As I said before - why did he and Louise have to continue on and on about ****ing presentgate for over 48 hours? If they'd just said that he was speaking bull**** and they didn't buy the presents to look good and leave it at that this whole presentgate would have ended right then... but no, they have to keep on and on and on and gang up. It's so stupid. If Aaron was sulking or wanted to be by himself then so be it what the **** is wrong with just leaving him be and enjoying the days you have together? Yet if you keep bringing it up over and over and over again I'm not surprised he didn't want to be in their company - hell I wouldn't!

You have to wonder why are they always so worried about Aaron being by himself and why they keep saying that he's only doing it for air time? To me it just reeks of the fact that they are so worried that they will not get the airtime themselves? So who is doing what for airtime and who's worrying about the public the most?

[MARTITA]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh really? Saying that he was going to be following him around and be in his face for the next three days is normal and not aggressive behaviour? Ok, poppet

Really think some of you Aaron fans our quite blinkered and can't see that what aaron does is really sneaky. At least Jay you know where you are with and perhaps he should not have said that bit but everything else was spot on. so are you saying it's completly ok to slag people off behind thier backs call them an idiots and rant but not say anything to their faces?

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh really? Saying that he was going to be following him around and be in his face for the next three days is normal and not aggressive behaviour? Ok, poppet

People say things in the heat of the moment, doesnt mean they will do it.
Jay himself said he was ott when he said that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MARTITA

Really think some of you Aaron fans our quite blinkered and can't see the what aaron does in a really sneaky way. At least Jay you know where you are with and perhaps he should not have said that bit but everything else was spot on. so are you saying it's completly ok to slag people off behind thier backs call them an idiot?

First off, insulting fans of HMs is against the rules.

All of them in there have slagged people off behind their backs (bar maybe Alex) people do this all the time in r/l but they're not filmed doing it. I assume from your post that you're implying Aaron is the only one to have done this? That is simply not true.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

People say things in the heat of the moment, doesnt mean they will do it.
Jay himself said he was ott when he said that.

I know that, I was just using it as an example to MARTITA as to what I thought was OTT and aggressive in the conversation.

[MARTITA]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

First off, insulting fans of HMs is against the rules.

All of them in there have slagged people off behind their backs (bar maybe Alex) people do this all the time in r/l but they're not filmed doing it. I assume from your post that you're implying Aaron is the only one to have done this? That is simply not true.

I'm not meaning to insult anybody all i'm saying is there seems to be an aaron appreciation thing going on and it's as if Aaron can do no wrong, when his behavior has at times has been awful.

[LivT]

Jay expressed himself well, calmly, and kept his anger under control during his vent to Aaron. He was by no means caustic, nor was he mean spirited. As a staunch Aaron supporter, with Jay being my least favoured housemate, even I could see all that. What was also very evident and damning, was Aaron showing yet again, how he isn't capable of accepting an apology gracefully.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by MARTITA

Really think some of you Aaron fans our quite blinkered and can't see that what aaron does is really sneaky. At least Jay you know where you are with and perhaps he should not have said that bit but everything else was spot on. so are you saying it's completly ok to slag people off behind thier backs call them an idiots and rant but not say anything to their faces?

PMSL

What like what he said about Alex, Faye, Louise, Jem and Aaron while hiding in the crypt and came out and told them to there faces? You mean like that you know where you are...?

Or was it how as soon as he realised how popular Aaron was with the public and he lost his little side-kicks Anton and Aden he was desperate to get (and still is) Aaron as his new BFF. You mean like that you know where you are...?

Yeah .... OK.

[connie]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Same reason why some Aaron fans wont admit when Aaron is in the wrong.

Imo... Jay did go a bit overboard but it wasnt bullying & agree with some of what Jay said to Aaron.
Aaron needs to grow up & stop acting like a sulky child and Jay needs to learn how to get his point across without getting angry.

oh came off it, if the that wasn't bullying i hate to think what you'd be like.
Plus you don't have to go around with a fixed grin on your face so people don't think your sulking. I just hope Louise has seen the light if not god help her, with Jays temper you'd end up living in a tip. If he was my son i'd be worried.

[connie]

Originally Posted by MARTITA

I'm not meaning to insult anybody all i'm saying is there seems to be an aaron appreciation thing going on and it's as if Aaron can do no wrong, when his behavior has at times has been awful.

Perhaps we at different ages me from the older generation have different standards today there's no repect and the filth that comes out of people mouth in the house is not nice to hear, sleeping around there's no self respect. I don't regret our parents being strick. today children can't accept the word no and i think this is why they started the wolf pack to take control and when they dwindled away Jay began to loose control, they've all said things behind each others backs thats nothing new who doesn't. Come on it is a game with just over a day to go, and yes i'm an Aaron fan but they all have there faults.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LivT

Jay expressed himself well, calmly, and kept his anger under control during his vent to Aaron. He was by no means caustic, nor was he mean spirited. As a staunch Aaron supporter, with Jay being my least favoured housemate, even I could see all that. What was also very evident and damning, was Aaron showing yet again, how he isn't capable of accepting an apology gracefully.

[LivT]

Originally Posted by MARTITA

I'm not meaning to insult anybody all i'm saying is there seems to be an aaron appreciation thing going on and it's as if Aaron can do no wrong, when his behavior has at times has been awful.

I really wish these types of comments would die a quick, merciful death! They are begining to sound like some worn out mantra and appear to be a cop out when there is lack of something else to say. Some of us on here don't get pleasure, nor find purpose in simply championing our favourite through right and wrong, warts and all! I for one don't see the sense in it, no matter how much you vocalise your support it isn't going to change everyones opinion. I like many others here simply like to debate our unbiased opinions. On the other side of the coin, those that do wish to suport their fave HM through thick and thin have an equal right to do so.

[kisywisy]

Originally Posted by LivT

Jay expressed himself well, calmly, and kept his anger under control during his vent to Aaron. He was by no means caustic, nor was he mean spirited. As a staunch Aaron supporter, with Jay being my least favoured housemate, even I could see all that. What was also very evident and damning, was Aaron showing yet again, how he isn't capable of accepting an apology gracefully.

some of what he has said was a bit over the top, but he got his point across well and had some very valid points