[InOne]

Originally Posted by Snowball

At the end of the day: I am perfectly entitled to my own opinion -whether people agree or not.

Mmmmhmm and don't you just let us know about it.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Possibly he'd had enough of listening to a man trying to do his job, who (as per the newpaper report) suggested he buy a ticket and the yobbo refused, preferring instead to verbally abuse an employee of the Rail company and just got rid of bad rubbish, promptly and without ceremony.

But an off duty copper knows that if he fails to identify himself and then lays hands on someone he is as guilty as anyone else of assault and will probably be convicted of said offense where as the lay citizen would be admonished. By way of the fact he is trained in the law.

Same reason why coppers always give the "police" shouts when entering houses on raids.

Until the person (target) is aware that the people grabbing him are police the grabbee is under common law(even in Scotland) allowed to defend themselves using minimum force, of course.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

Mmmmhmm and don't you just let us know about it.

[Callum]

The big man was a bit harsh there, I don't think there was any need for him to get so rough but the boy shouldn't have been on the train in the first place so I feel no sympathy for him. The conductor was doing his job and the boy clearly wasn't listening to him so I'm glad that someone helped the conductor out and did something about the situation even though I feel he was a bit too rough with that boy. The person who I felt most for in that video was the conductor, just a man doing his job and he has to deal with a chav who hasn't paid for his fare and not willing to leave the train.

[Novo]

Can remember me and my friend were cycling back from Wales about 4/5 years ago when my bike got a punture.. so we decided to take the train and not pay we had the clever idea of locking ourselves in the toilet to hide from the ticket man but i left my bike outside the toilet door next minute all i heard was a massive crash ( my bike falling ) and the door wouldn't open.. took me about 10 minutes to work out that my bike was jamming the door, the guy must have heard us trying to open the door as well, all we heard on repeat was " I know your in there " & " i can wait here all night for you " we waited for ages for the **** to go away but ended up about 3 stops further then where we intended when we finally got off

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

Pyramid at the end of the day there was no excuse for Big mans actions, he was a thug and jumped at the chance to throw him off the train. He is no hero and he should be dealt with by the law, he was by far the worst out of the three of them.

I agree, I think he should have paid his fare it's not nice to put the ticket man in such a position and the swearing must have been intimidating for him, awful.

However, the big man seemed to be chomping at the bit to grab him, he didn't just escort him either, he threw him of the train. Big man was the worst of the three by a long way imo

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

The guy that interfered was far too rough, yeah the one that never had a ticket was in the wrong but that was between him and the conductor, no one else, just because he never had a ticket doesnt mean the other guy had a right to assault him, the conductor should have done his job properly and kept him on the train then radio through for the police to be waiting at the next station.

Yeah, this would have been the best option really. It was quite uncomfortable viewing tbh. Yeah, he was verbally rude to the conductor but the conductor should have acted more professionally and called the proper authorities instead of giving a passenger the go ahead to basically assault him. That kid/man (whatever), would be within his rights to sue the rail company too I reckon.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Snowball

For all the people who moan about the price of public transport - it's arseholes like this to blame.

Loads of people get away with fare dodging - this guy got caught - he should have had the sense to take it on the chin and left when he was asked to.

The Scots don't put up with this pish - and it was nice to see a more younger guy helping out the older conductor - who was only doing his job but had a young yob thinking he was some sort of hard man, cursing away at the old guy. He showed him no respect - so the other passenger gave the gobsh*te as dose of his own 'no respect' medicine.

Good on the big guy.

Originally Posted by Bethlehem

Why did he go on the train then if he cant afford it? theres no excuses imo.

Originally Posted by Jordan.

People had places to be and he wasn't going to move so fair enough chucking him out on his arse.

Originally Posted by Jingle Bellend

Big Man

Originally Posted by Nativitystar

Meh, he deserved it

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You do have to have your ticket ready for inspection at all times travelling on train or bus, so the lad should have made sure he had that.

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I'm glad he was thrown off.

Originally Posted by Cracker Dagger

The twerp got what he deserved IMO.

If you don't pay, you don't get away.

Originally Posted by God

Good, the little scumbag deserved it. All this molly coddling like 'oh he may have had his reasons for not paying', bull****. If you you can't afford the train don't get on it, simple as.

Yeah, the toe-rag had it coming ..... swearing at public servants is contemptible and unforgiveable .....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

The big man was a bit harsh there, I don't think there was any need for him to get so rough but the boy shouldn't have been on the train in the first place so I feel no sympathy for him. The conductor was doing his job and the boy clearly wasn't listening to him so I'm glad that someone helped the conductor out and did something about the situation even though I feel he was a bit too rough with that boy. The person who I felt most for in that video was the conductor, just a man doing his job and he has to deal with a chav who hasn't paid for his fare and not willing to leave the train.

Yes he got Clapped
he is Now a Hero



Well Done Big Guy


(press went to his door but he does
not want to talk to the press)



Punk Student
ignore a real old rail man.


Hero Chucks the Punk Off




Life In The Fast Lane.

[Tom4784]

He's such a hero for attacking a diabetic teenager and refusing to let him get his medication. Give him a parade and gold plated statues in every city.

Slightly off topic but I love reading Daily Mail comments, it's like a list of everything that's wrong with the UK.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

I agree, I think he should have paid his fare it's not nice to put the ticket man in such a position and the swearing must have been intimidating for him, awful.

However, the big man seemed to be chomping at the bit to grab him, he didn't just escort him either, he threw him of the train. Big man was the worst of the three by a long way imo

Well considering the train wasn't going to move until the lad got off, I would have thrown the scumbag off too.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i feel sorry for him

the teenager i mean

i hope the fat guy gets sent to jail

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by God

Well considering the train wasn't going to move until the lad got off, I would have thrown the scumbag off too.

we all know you move in mysterious ways, lord

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He's such a hero for attacking a diabetic teenager and refusing to let him get his medication. Give him a parade and gold plated statues in every city.

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-ev...iral_1_2005949

Sam Main, 19, a student at Heriot-Watt University, was chucked off the train at Linlithgow station by a burly commuter, to the applause of other passengers, after he became involved in a shouting match with a conductor who told him his ticket was not valid.

But today Mr Main is reported as saying: “I had been out celebrating after an exam and I was half asleep on the train. I did have a ticket but I must have handed over the wrong one.

“The next thing I know this big guy is manhandling me to the door and throwing me off. I landed on my face and I have cuts all over my cheek and legs.

“I couldn’t believe it when the footage turned up on YouTube. People have been asking me if I’m going to go to the police, but I have more exams on Thursday and at the moment I just want to concentrate on them.”

Is the germ going to celebrate after every exam, because if he is, he should bear in mind :

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-...n-and-alcohol/

Taking diabetes medication doesn’t mean you need to give up drinking alcohol. But you do need to limit your intake.

Men should not drink more than 3 units of alcohol per day.

That's ONE PINT of beer - perhaps he'll be able to moderate his attitude and his language then .....

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Omah

germ

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-ev...iral_1_2005949



Is the germ going to celebrate after every exam, because if he is, he should bear in mind :

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-...n-and-alcohol/



That's ONE PINT of beer - perhaps he'll be able to moderate his attitude and his language then .....

And how do you know how often he drinks and how is it relevant? It doesn't give the lout the right to throw him about. At the end of the day the fat one was just looking for an excuse to stop dragging his fists along the floor and use them.

If it was a woman or an elderly man being thrown off I wonder if people would be so quick to jump to the fat man's defense then.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And how do you know how often he drinks and how is it relevant? It doesn't give the lout the right to throw him about. At the end of the day the fat one was just looking for an excuse to stop dragging his fists along the floor and use them.

If it was a woman or an elderly man being thrown off I wonder if people would be so quick to jump to the fat man's defense then.

That kid should have watched his mouth then and not had such an attitude if he was in the right. If he 'handed over the wrong ticket', like he claimed, he made no attempt to look for said correct ticket or to rectify the situation. This little scumbag deserved what he got and it's good to see some people will not tolerate being a pushover like the majority of the UK at the moment.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by God

Well considering the train wasn't going to move until the lad got off, I would have thrown the scumbag off too.

I dont get this bit at all

Surely if the bloke was doing his job right, he would just radio through and have the transport police waiting at the next station for him or something.

No way would the train just have sat there for 6 hours or so with nothing else happening...the conductor was talking crap, and clearly doesnt even know how to do his job properly if he thought the train would just stay stationary until the guy decided it was time to leave

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And how do you know how often he drinks and how is it relevant?

I don't know - I queried his intention re alcohol .....

It's relevant because the poster was using an alleged "diabetic" condition in the drunken lout's defence .....

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If it was a woman or an elderly man being thrown off I wonder if people would be so quick to jump to the fat man's defense then.

Good job it was a foul-mouthed drunken young lout then .....

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If it was a woman or an elderly man being thrown off I wonder if people would be so quick to jump to the fat man's defense then.

Originally Posted by God

That kid should have watched his mouth then and not had such an attitude if he was in the right. If he 'handed over the wrong ticket', like he claimed, he made no attempt to look for said correct ticket or to rectify the situation. This little scumbag deserved what he got and it's good to see some people will not tolerate being a pushover like the majority of the UK at the moment.

Fair enough, but any answer to dezzys question?

I think its just because its a young lad that people are happy with him being assaulted tbh...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sassy Claus

i feel sorry for him

the teenager i mean

i hope the fat guy gets sent to jail

Typical of You



The Punk was Rude to the Old Rail Man.
Fact.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Fair enough, but any answer to dezzys question?

I think its just because its a young lad that people are happy with him being assaulted tbh...

Not just a Young Lad


A Punk Kid who hates Old Workers

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Not just a Young Lad


A Punk Kid who hates Old Workers

Which part of the video drew you to that conclusion arista?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Fair enough, but any answer to dezzys question?

I think its just because its a young lad that people are happy with him being assaulted tbh...

Yep. Exactly. But instead he gave that passenger the go ahead to throw him off the Train. The boy was being rude, absolutely, but he wasn't being threatening towards anyone so the conductor should have called the proper authorities.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Fair enough, but any answer to dezzys question?

I think its just because its a young lad that people are happy with him being assaulted tbh...

I wish people would stop saying assaulted, you make it all sound as if he was beaten and attacked. He was escorted off the train for not paying his fare.

And no offence, but I don't know many older people who don't pay their fare and then tell the ticket inspector to ****** off when he asks them for a valid ticket as the one they have provided is incorrect. It's easy to flip it to what if the person was old, but their attitude to the situation would be very different from the young lads and so probably never would have escalated to the situation that occurred.