[cfromhx02]

I don't think Chris meant any harm or offence by it, and not saying any of you think he did. He was obviously trying to say something good about Connor.

However, I think it's just because Chris isn't bright enough to work out that there is no such thing as a stereotypical Irish man or a general stereotype person of any nationality.

And it's not a good idea to imply that there is something not as good about most men 4m Ireland.

No one likes their country insulting if you want to get on their good side.

He hasn't Tarmac'd the garden, or set up an illegal bare-knuckle boxing bout to resolve the dispute between Chris and Rebecca.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

I don't think Chris meant any harm or offence by it, and not saying any of you think he did. He was obviously trying to say something good about Connor.

However, I think it's just because Chris isn't bright enough to work out that there is no such thing as a stereotypical Irish man or a general stereotype person of any nationality.

And it's not a good idea to imply that there is something not as good about most men 4m Ireland.

No one likes their country insulting if you want to get on their good side.

No offence but weren't you the one calling people bigots because of what Benedict did? How is this any different? If anything this is more offensive.

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

I don't think Chris meant any harm or offence by it, and not saying any of you think he did. He was obviously trying to say something good about Connor.

However, I think it's just because Chris isn't bright enough to work out that there is no such thing as a stereotypical Irish man or a general stereotype person of any nationality.

And it's not a good idea to imply that there is something not as good about most men 4m Ireland.

No one likes their country insulting if you want to get on their good side.

I'm English, and you can insult England all you like. Would make not one jot of difference to me. Only petty minded people are bothered by countries and borders these days.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Maybe it's because he wasn't carrying the Blarney stone around with him, and doesn't have eyebrows on his cheeks.

OR maybe Chris was saying that most Irish men have a personality and on meeting Conor he couldnt quite believe how bland he is

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

He hasn't Tarmac'd the garden, or set up an illegal bare-knuckle boxing bout to resolve the dispute between Chris and Rebecca.

Too funny...nearly fell off my chair after reading this.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

As an Irishman myself, I don't take offence to what Chris said as he probably fumbles his words and says things whithout thinking because of his insecurities. But I would have asked him what he meant - "not your normal Irish Man." And goodness knows what a Normal Porn Star is................

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by Conor

He's a **** for saying it. Did he not say to Sara that for a Scottish person she didn't have a bad temper as well (mite have been someone else)

Oh actually someone did say (about Sara) that they thought it was just her Scottishness that came out

and they said they thought that's how most people acted in Scotland after having a drink.

Can't remember who but think some one said it, but may have been here before anyone starts complaining about it.

Anyway whoever said it is bang out of order. And I didn't comment on it before because it only shows their stupidity at saying it anyway.

Because I'm Scottish I found it particularly out of order though I am against the stupid stereotyping and generalization of any race or nationality.

I don't like Sara though,largely because she is a Royalist, which shows she is thick I think ( I mean it's pretty damned obvious the institution of Monarchy had to be created some how in the first place.

And pretty obvious it was created by their ancestors being the leaders of larger gangs than their neigbours had and going around robbing the neighbors land to build bigger territories for themselves and their gang as they did and murdering their neighbors and their relatives to get the land off them.

I mean if an ordinary person and their gang were to go around robbing land or property and murdering the relatives of the property holders would you or anyone else accept them as heads of state or accept paying homage to them.No you wouldn't.

You'd see them as robbers and murderers as is how the ancestors of these Royals should have been seen.So I'm against her for that but mainly because she was forcing her Royalist sheepish beliefs onto people when she was drunk and she even voted against someone for having the brains and decency not to be a Royalist.

Sorry if it seemed like I was forcing my anti Monarchist beliefs onto people, it's just Sara's stupidity forced me to come out with it.

I'm, Scottish but I was embarrassed she was when she came out with that garbage which she's just spouted because she's been told to say that by our papers and tv the f cretin.

There was no need to generalize that all Scottish people behave like that when drunk or wed all have a temper though.Maybe seems like I have here but ffs I've put up with years of cra* about the Royal family and we've had a lot of it forced on us on tv recently even when we trying to avoid it like mad and Saras BS mouthing off about them like a sheep because of what she's been taught to say in the press and tv was the final straw.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

As an Irishman myself, I don't take offence to what Chris said as he probably fumbles his words and says things whithout thinking because of his insecurities. But I would have asked him what he meant - "not your normal Irish Man." And goodness knows what a Normal Porn Star is................

Yeah, I feel the same way about it

[MTVN]

lol I think he was actually trying to be complimentary and just ended up tripping over himself when he couldn't really articulate what he was trying to say. That's the great thing about Chris though, he just makes himself look an idiot the whole time

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

lol I think he was actually trying to be complimentary and just ended up tripping over himself when he couldn't really articulate what he was trying to say. That's the great thing about Chris though, he just makes himself look an idiot the whole time

That's so true I hope he doesn't go on Friday eventhough I nearly have to watch him through my fingers most of the time!

[billy123]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Oh actually someone did say (about Sara) that they thought it was just her Scottishness that came out

and they said they thought that's how most people acted in Scotland after having a drink.

Can't remember who but think some one said it, but may have been here before anyone starts complaining about it.

Anyway whoever said it is bang out of order. And I didn't comment on it before because it only shows their stupidity at saying it anyway.

Because I'm Scottish I found it particularly out of order though I am against the stupid stereotyping and generalization of any race or nationality.

I don't like Sara though,largely because she is a Royalist, which shows she is thick I think ( I mean it's pretty damned obvious the institution of Monarchy had to be created some how in the first place.

And pretty obvious it was created by their ancestors being the leaders of larger gangs than their neigbours had and going around robbing the neighbors land to build bigger territories for themselves and their gang as they did and murdering their neighbors and their relatives to get the land off them.

I mean if an ordinary person and their gang were to go around robbing land or property and murdering the relatives of the property holders would you or anyone else accept them as heads of state or accept paying homage to them.No you wouldn't.

You'd see them as robbers and murderers as is how the ancestors of these Royals should have been seen.So I'm against her for that but mainly because she was forcing her Royalist sheepish beliefs onto people when she was drunk and she even voted against someone for having the brains and decency not to be a Royalist.

Sorry if it seemed like I was forcing my anti Monarchist beliefs onto people, it's just Sara's stupidity forced me to come out with it.

I'm, Scottish but I was embarrassed she was when she came out with that garbage which she's just spouted because she's been told to say that by our papers and tv the f cretin.

There was no need to generalize that all Scottish people behave like that when drunk or wed all have a temper though.Maybe seems like I have here but ffs I've put up with years of cra* about the Royal family and we've had a lot of it forced on us on tv recently even when we trying to avoid it like mad and Saras BS mouthing off about them like a sheep because of what she's been taught to say in the press and tv was the final straw.

Woah your pretty fiery there dont be so angry!
My missus is scottish and she has a hell of a temper on her but she doesnt get offended by the generalisations that sometimes get thrown around because she agrees with them.
Thats all they are generalisations and a lot of them loosely have a grounding in truth.
u would have to be pretty daft and over sensitive to think that some people thought everyone fits the description.

[arista]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

lol maybe he mingles with them all the time in his work as a bailif/bouncer/scrapmetal detector

Yes maybe more Rough

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No offence but weren't you the one calling people bigots because of what Benedict did? How is this any different? If anything this is more offensive.

No offence my a***. No I wasn't calling anyone a bigot.I merely meant that some people who make excuses ( made that clear several times that I said some) who make excuses are doing so to cover up the fact that they are bigoted themselves.You see most adults aren't mature enough to admit to their faults or when they are wrong.

I promise I do.And I repeated umpteen times that I didn't mean everyone but that some cover over the bigotry behind their anti trans jokes with excuses because they can't admit that their is their own bigotry behind it.

Wish I didn't have to repeat myself so often.And wish I wasn't attacked for defending innocent people and that more adults were grown up enough to admit to their faults (even if there is bigotry behind it) and apologies when they are wrong.

The difference here is that I don't think Chris realized how it was wrong to generalize about all the men who were born in Ireland.
I knew exactly what I was saying and was careful with everything I wrote.

It's just a pity I had to damn well re-explain it so many times and a shame you can't appreciate applaud people for standing up to anti trans bigotry as much as you seem to not like Chris's comments which although bad are not nearly as bad as anti trans comments.May (note may) a lot that.

[InOne]

Probably meant because he didn't have his pipe and hat

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

lol I think he was actually trying to be complimentary and just ended up tripping over himself when he couldn't really articulate what he was trying to say. That's the great thing about Chris though, he just makes himself look an idiot the whole time

Exactly, which is why neither Conor nor Benedict picked him up on it, they accepted it for what it was...a rather awkwardly put compliment.

[Tony1111]

Right! Patrick, Niamh, let's get the bombs gathered and send them over the top of Borehamwood!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

No offence my a***. No I wasn't calling anyone a bigot.I merely meant that some people who make excuses ( made that clear several times that I said some) who make excuses are doing so to cover up the fact that they are bigoted themselves.You see most adults aren't mature enough to admit to their faults or when they are wrong.

I promise I do.And I repeated umpteen times that I didn't mean everyone but that some cover over the bigotry behind their anti trans jokes with excuses because they can't admit that their is their own bigotry behind it.

Wish I didn't have to repeat myself so often.And wish I wasn't attacked for defending innocent people and that more adults were grown up enough to admit to their faults (even if there is bigotry behind it) and apologies when they are wrong.

The difference here is that I don't think Chris realized how it was wrong to generalize about all the men who were born in Ireland.
I knew exactly what I was saying and was careful with everything I wrote.

It's just a pity I had to damn well re-explain it so many times and a shame you can't appreciate applaud people for standing up to anti trans bigotry as much as you seem to not like Chris's comments which although bad are not nearly as bad as anti trans comments.May (note may) a lot that.

As far as I can see you got angry over what Benedict did because you either are or know Transgenders personally ........ also, I noticed that you also got offended over what Chris said about Scottish people............because you are Scottish......funny that.

I'm not offended by what Chris because he's an idiot but I do think that what he did is far more offensive than what Benedict did, simply because I don't think Benedict was "mocking" transgenders. I've seen male kids stick balloons down there t-shirts pretending they have boobs, does that make them evil? No it doesn't. Men pretending to be women for a joke has got nothing to do taking the piss out of transgenders, it's taking the piss out of themselves and having a laugh. I seriously doubt Benedict even had transgenders in mind when he did that.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Woah your pretty fiery there dont be so angry!
My missus is scottish and she has a hell of a temper on her but she doesnt get offended by the generalisations that sometimes get thrown around because she agrees with them.
Thats all they are generalisations and a lot of them loosely have a grounding in truth.
u would have to be pretty daft to think that some thought everyne fits the description.

Yawn. Knew I'd get that.

That someone would reply and say it was because I was angry.

Maybe a bit (but ffs we have had the Royal family forced on us a lot recently and anyone who realizes it's based on murder and land robbery to begin with wouldn't think it was v good their descendants were head of state due to it or that they are meant to be looked up to).

I'd just had enough with all of it forced on us so much recently even when we're trying our best to avoid it as I did, that Sara's stupidity and repeating what the media have told her to believe about it was too much.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Tony1111

Right! Patrick, Niamh, let's get the bombs gathered and send them over the top of Borehamwood!

Jolly good show old bean thanks for the warning old chap i better gather my things with haste and make a dash for it

[Tony1111]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Jolly good show old bean thanks for the warning old chap i better gather my things with haste and make a dash for it

Don't worry, all a joke. I'm not your typical Irish man. S'all just for da craic sittin' here supping me guiness Bejesus!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Jolly good show old bean thanks for the warning old chap i better gather my things with haste and make a dash for it

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

As far as I can see you got angry over what Benedict did because you either are or know Transgenders personally ........ also, I noticed that you also got offended over what Chris said about Scottish people............because you are Scottish......funny that.

I'm not offended by what Chris because he's an idiot but I do think that what he did is far more offensive than what Benedict did, simply because I don't think Benedict was "mocking" transgenders. I've seen male kids stick balloons down there t-shirts pretending they have boobs, does that make them evil? No it doesn't. Men pretending to be women for a joke has got nothing to do taking the piss out of transgenders, it's taking the piss out of themselves and having a laugh. I seriously doubt Benedict even had transgenders in mind when he did that.

Yawn so you're not grown up or mature enough to admit to your faults or apologize just like the people you are protecting.There is no trans bigotry behind they and their friends anti trans jokes b? BS. So predictable.

About time you and some of those I'm commenting on grew up and admitted what's behind that humour and admit to their faults and apologized.

But of course it's the fault of those who try to protect them and who are the victims of the attacks which can lead from the bigotry behind that humour if it is not kept in check.People like you and who I'm speaking about are never able to own up to their faults or say sorry it's always someone else's fault.

And by the way, please go away, and stop stalking me (see how I stayed calm and polite about it). I never stalked you or any of the people I'm on about behind anti trans humour to other threads to give you or them abuse now did I ? So how come you've come to another thread (stalking really) to give me abuse ?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Yawn. Knew I'd get that.

That someone would reply and say it was because I was angry.

Maybe a bit (but ffs we have had the Royal family forced on us a lot recently and anyone who realizes it's based on murder and land robbery to begin with wouldn't think it was v good their descendants were head of state due to it or that they are meant to be looked up to).

I'd just had enough with all of it forced on us so much recently even when we're trying our best to avoid it as I did, that Sara's stupidity and repeating what the media have told her to believe about it was too much.

What isnt based on murder,land robbery and war when it comes to any nationality?
Its not my doing and i certainly wouldnt let a comment by some fame ***** on a reality show get me worked up.
Anyhow hello

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Yawn so you're not grown up or mature enough to admit to your faults or apologize just like the people you are protecting.There is no trans bigotry behind they and their friends anti trans jokes b? BS. So predictable.

About time you and some of those I'm commenting on grew up and admitted what's behind that humour and admit to their faults and apologized.

But of course it's the fault of those who try to protect them and who are the victims of the attacks which can lead from the bigotry behind that humour if it is not kept in check.People like you and who I'm speaking about are never able to own up to their faults or say sorry it's always someone else's fault.

And by the way, please go away, and stop stalking me (see how I stayed calm and polite about it). I never stalked you or any of the people I'm on about behind anti trans humour to other threads to give you or them abuse now did I ? So how come you've come to another thread (stalking really) to give me abuse ?

Stalking you? I believe I posted in this thread before you did. Please do not insult other forum members for having a different opinion to you. Thanks.