[EddyEagal]

I think abortion is fine. Sometimes getting pregnant could be a mistake. When it is a mistake, then it would be irresponsible of the woman to keep the baby. I'm not a parent, but I can still tell that being a parent is the biggest responsibility ever, and becoming a parent should only be something which you want to happen.

If the baby was planned but something happened during the pregnancy (break up ect) then I think it is still responsible to have an abortion. For example if the woman was with a man who was offering a stable life for the baby, but then leaves, then IF the woman wants an abortion, then that's right. I'm not saying a relationship is more important than the baby, but relationships provide a good life for the baby - NOT in all situations.

So basically I think it's wrong for a woman to keep a baby if they don't actually want it.

I get that a lot of people will disagree with me, and that's fine, and I'm not saying that everyone should agree eith me either

[The Human Santapede]

Abortion is fine in certain circumstances. Pregnancy through rape for example is a time where abortion is needed. However those people who are just careless through lack of contraception really should think more carefully; although I'd rather they terminate as opposed to bringing a new life into the world if its not wanted.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre right , I dont want to or expect anyone to agree or change views, Im not angry tbh just shouting down the sick comments and challenging the disgusting abortion figures.straight talking is needed when the end result is ultimately 191000 babies, I dont mind being destroyed I have no ego....Its the issue that matters most. all the mealy mouthed debates in the world dont change the fact our abortion rates are out of control and 191000 babies are dead. people on here seem to care more about trivial issues than 191000 dead babies

the problem with your posts, and this is true for many people who do not agree with abortion is that you try to vilify people who are pro-choice, as if they have no appreciate of human life. Like I said earlier in the thread, my opinion in the matter is a mixed, but i know enough to say that vilifying people who are pro-choice is not the way to go.

[EddyEagal]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Abortion is fine in certain circumstances. Pregnancy through rape for example is a time where abortion is needed. However those people who are just careless through lack of contraception really should think more carefully; although I'd rather they terminate as opposed to bringing a new life into the world if its not wanted.

This is exactly what I was trying to get accross in my post. Well said ukturtle

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

the problem with your posts, and this is true for many people who do not agree with abortion is that you try to vilify people who are pro-choice, as if they have no appreciate of human life. Like I said earlier in the thread, my opinion in the matter is a mixed, but i know enough to say that vilifying people who are pro-choice is not the way to go.

the Uk has tried it your way and abortion has gone through the roof, time for straight talking and time for tough love. you choose to mealy mouth, I choose to fight for the dead babies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...-england-wales

the abortions have gone from around 20,000 to 190000 in the space of 4 decades. meanwhile the pro abortionists want to make it easier to get an abortion, thus taking the whole moral choice out of it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by EddyEagal

This is exactly what I was trying to get accross in my post. Well said ukturtle

No its nothing like what you said. what you said was sick.

[Merry Mockmas]

EddyEagal didn't say anything that nasty on what I read.

[EddyEagal]

Originally Posted by the truth

No its nothing like what you said. what you said was sick.

Sorry, how was what I said sick? Could you explain that? :/

[Ammi]

..I think if you choose to fight for 'dead babies'...a forum isn't a place to do it truth...this isn't a place for fights...it's a place for people to voice opinions..and to respect the opinions of others, no matter how oppose to them they are...

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by the truth

the Uk has tried it your way and abortion has gone through the roof, time for straight talking and time for tough love. you choose to mealy mouth, I choose to fight for the dead babies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...-england-wales

the abortions have gone from around 20,000 to 190000 in the space of 4 decades. meanwhile the pro abortionists want to make it easier to get an abortion, thus taking the whole moral choice out of it.

saying things like that is what's stopping any of the sort of stuff you're talking about. No one is going to sit down and talk about these things when they're called 'baby killers' by the other side

[Marsh.]

Take a valium and have a lie down.

[Ammi]

..and you'll never get any opinion across by personally insulting someone..once you do that, you're opinion is lost...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think if you choose to fight for 'dead babies'...a forum isn't a place to do it truth...this isn't a place for fights...it's a place for people to voice opinions..and to respect the opinions of others, no matter how oppose to them they are...

youre trying to tell me what to say and how to say it, thanks but I reject your advice. if I tell you how to say things and what to say you dont like it, so dont be hypocritical

anyways back the the topic

According to official statistics, there were just over 700,000 live births in England and Wales in 2010. The fact that there were 190,000 abortions indicates that over one in five pregnancies were terminated - a truly horrendous figure!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..and you'll never get any opinion across by personally insulting someone..once you do that, you're opinion is lost...

Exactly.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre trying to tell me what to say and how to say it, thanks but I reject your advice. if I tell you how to say things and what to say you dont like it, so dont be hypocritical

anyways back the the topic

According to official statistics, there were just over 700,000 live births in England and Wales in 2010. The fact that there were 190,000 abortions indicates that over one in five pregnancies were terminated - a truly horrendous figure!

..ok..talk amongst yourself...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly.

if you believe that why didnt you tell the poster off for calling me a moron and others for mocking assissinations and laughing about abortion? or is it one rule for one and another rule for other people? smeels like hypocrisy.

[Merry Mockmas]

The Truth only needs to tone it down a little bit as he makes some interesting points in his posts, but when he goes on some argumentative rampage I just don't want to keep reading his posts all the time.

[Marsh.]

If it was a well thought out rampage it would be fine, but it isn't.

He's not even reading and acknowledging what is actually being written.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..ok..talk amongst yourself...

so you wont talk to me unless I comply fully with exactly the way you want me to talk? control freakery. Anyway Ill rise above that and keep fighting for the rights of the 191000 beautiful innocent dead babies

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

If it was a well thought out rampage it would be fine, but it isn't.

He's not even reading and acknowledging what is actually being written.

still avoiding the issue. forget the messenger follow the message

According to official statistics, there were just over 700,000 live births in England and Wales in 2010. The fact that there were 190,000 abortions indicates that over one in five pregnancies were terminated - a truly horrendous figure!

[Urban Cragou]

Jesus christ.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Redway

Jesus christ.

I don't think even he can salvage this thread now.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by anniek76

I don't think even he can salvage this thread now.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Redway

Jesus christ.

yeah he used to heal the blind and the sick and the disabled, he didnt preach aborting them in the womb!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by the truth

so you wont talk to me unless I comply fully with exactly the way you want me to talk? control freakery. Anyway Ill rise above that and keep fighting for the rights of the 191000 beautiful innocent dead babies

..no, I have nothing to add to your posts because you won't acknowledge anyone else's views...so then it becomes a pointless stalemate..you may not agree with them, but to blinker yourself to others opinions and insult them for having them, makes any kind of debate impossible...