[Livia]

Originally Posted by fingers

I said it in the post above his!

Originally Posted by James

Yes, I agreed with that post.

I agree with you both then. Fingers, you know I only ever skim your posts.....................

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, well... there's always one.

So are you shocked ? it wasn't alluded to the word was put quite clearly , hopefully you will let them know your thoughts on the subject .

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think, even after all this time, people still underestimate the negative connotations of the N word. Strange really... it's not a hard thing to remember.

I think you of all people on here know my thoughts on words and beliefs like this, so it's certainly not a case of me condoning the use of the word.

I should've made it clear in the OP that my issue is with these endless 'formal warnings' they give out, in the past you would have had to repeat certain actions a few times to receive one, now it seems they'll give one out regardless. Housemates used to be reprimanded and threatened with a formal warning if they were to repeat the same behaviour, and that's exactly what I think would've been sufficient in this circumstance. A reminder that although she was just quoting what had been said and Big Brother understood that, just not to use it again or she'd then receive a formal warning. That's my issue.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kistar

So are you shocked ? it wasn't alluded to the word was put quite clearly , hopefully you will let them know your thoughts on the subject .

No, I'm not shocked. I've been on this forum a while. Besides you'd already replied to that particular post hadn't you? I had nothing else to add. Is that okay?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I think you of all people on here know my thoughts on words and beliefs like this, so it's certainly not a case of me condoning the use of the word.

I should've made it clear in the OP that my issue is with these endless 'formal warnings' they give out, in the past you would have had to repeat certain actions a few times to receive one, now it seems they'll give one out regardless. Housemates used to be reprimanded and threatened with a formal warning if they were to repeat the same behaviour, and that's exactly what I think would've been sufficient in this circumstance. A reminder that although she was just quoting what had been said and Big Brother understood that, just not to use it again or she'd then receive a formal warning. That's my issue.

Hello Jack...

I remember them throwing a girl out for quoting a song lyric that contained the word, no malice, no insult intended... a song lyric. But in this case, I think James (okay, and fingers...) hit the nail on the head when they said that BB shouldn't have broadcast it in the first place.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by kistar

So are you shocked ? it wasn't alluded to the word was put quite clearly , hopefully you will let them know your thoughts on the subject .

We don't all have to share your views on that. We all know what word we are talking about - whether someone actually typed it in full is pretty incidental.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Livia

Frankly I'm shocked that you're shocked.

And what James said is true, they should never have broadcast it in the first place.

I wasn't shocked, merely surprised and Germyle DIDN'T "type it in full" it was a variation that left nothing to the imagination

The full transcripts are in this thread >http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...=236218&page=3

By the way Robertson's the Jam makers also fell foul of 20th Century PC correctness and had to replace a trade mark, as did A.G Barr the manufacturers of Barr's Irn Bru.

[Josy]

It doesn't matter if it was quoted she still used the word when there was no need for it.

[joeysteele]

The warning was over the top and unwarranted.

However Carol would have been better not even bringing the episode up anyway in the first place so may now learn to hold in her comments on others.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Josy

It doesn't matter if it was quoted she still used the word when there was no need for it.

EXACTLY!
All she needed to say was say he had a race row. These lost women always have big Gobs. Lord knows why they don't use their brain. Denise looks like queen compared to carol ffs.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

We don't all have to share your views on that. We all know what word we are talking about - whether someone actually typed it in full is pretty incidental.

You don't know my views on that , and if you read the posts Livia said she had never seen the word actually written , also I think the fact someone wrote Shut up ------ is a vital part of this convo seeing as how the word itself prompts such a lot of controversy.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I think you of all people on here know my thoughts on words and beliefs like this, so it's certainly not a case of me condoning the use of the word.

I should've made it clear in the OP that my issue is with these endless 'formal warnings' they give out, in the past you would have had to repeat certain actions a few times to receive one, now it seems they'll give one out regardless. Housemates used to be reprimanded and threatened with a formal warning if they were to repeat the same behaviour, and that's exactly what I think would've been sufficient in this circumstance. A reminder that although she was just quoting what had been said and Big Brother understood that, just not to use it again or she'd then receive a formal warning. That's my issue.

Big Brother only gave her a warning because the language was inappropriate and obviously we both agree that the language she used definitely was. Its not an appropriate word to use in any context on any TV show.

There are several ways she could have explained what Ron did without saying anything close to the n word.

I don't understand yours or anybody elses huff about this whole thing. A girl used a horrible word and was warned not to do it again.

Everybody should be happy.

[KingBilly]

omg did she say nig**r?

[fingers]

They constantly censor Live Feed but decide to BROADCAST a clip that they deem to be racist so that they can have a huge headline in their OWN newspaper about racism in CBB. It beggars belief.

[swinearefine]

I actually cannot believe she got a warning over that. Even knowing what PC bastards BB is, I never would have believed they would do that given the context of simply quoting someone. And it's completely hypocritical because Big Brother then used the word THEMSELVES so their justification that any use of the word at all is inappropriate is total bull****. I switched off immediately and I'm done with this series.

[flamingGalah!]

They have got pathetic with their warnings! Completely stupid when the likes of Connor who should have actually been thrown out of the house, was given money to leave, now they are dishing out warnings like biscuits at a coffee morning!

I agree with others that this is purely for the sake of Desmond's trashy rag so that they can have Carol on the front page, making her out to be a member of the Ku Klux Klan

[Kizzy]

I think she did it on purpose, let's hope her career goes the same way as his desperate old mare. (In case anyone's in any doubt I don't like carol mcgiffin)

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why didn't she keep her silly old gob shut?

I've just said this on a different thread , and think that it fits here as well Kizzy!

It's true that I like Ron Atkinson...and am glad to be supporting him [though i'm pleased that he'll probably be evicted on wednesday...because I feel that he is way out of his comfort zone and has already been paid for his appearance anyway]....but my point is that 'BOTH' Carole and Louie were playing a rather obvious game of besmirching a fellow contestants name to the public...and got caught out [well at least one of them did]!...Spence pretending that he didn't know was a pile of crap, taller than he is!!...Everybody has known that Ron Atkinson was going to be on the show for weeks!...Are we supposed to believe that when he found out that he was going to be joining him in the house...that he wouldn't just google big Ron's wiki page and know everything that he wanted to know? [and that goes for all of them!]....Is it a coincidence that Ron was the only housemate that Louie thought "he wouldn't have anything in common with"?...Ha! Ha!...i'll bet that him and Bruce are going to be bezzies!
And it has been twice that McGiffin has brought Ron's past cock-up to our attention in a matter of 1-2 days...in the DR and to Louie...do you not smell a particularly cut-throat game plan from the daytime dragon??

Cheers.

[Videostar]

Why doesn't Carol have the guts and admit, she doesn't like Ron, and stop re-hashing Ron's comment that he made around 10 years ago.

Carol is the one acting like some sort of moral guardian.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Why doesn't Carol have the guts and admit, she doesn't like Ron, and stop re-hashing Ron's comment that he made around 10 years ago.

Carol is the one acting like some sort of moral guardian.

It's 'the loose women way' Videostar!

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Lex

It's 'the loose women way' Videostar!

[MTVN]

Tbf I think they should be obliged to disclose it every time a housemate gets a warning, it's something the viewers should know. And although people are criticising them now for airing it everyone was slating the producers during BB13 because they didn't show a lot of the warnings, seems they're sorta damned if they do, damned if they don't

[Jamie.]

What was said? I missed it because I was collecting my take away LOL.

Miss it all.

[Videostar]

Does Ron know yet that his "racist comment" he made along time ago has been openly discussed by Carol with other people behind his back?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Livia

We've had several conversations on this forum about the "N word" and I've yet to see anyone type it out in full. If we can manage to discuss it without putting the actual word out there, you'd think that Carol, a media professional supposedly, would be able to manage it too. She didn't repeat the quote in the privacy of her own home, she said it on Big Brother with cameras on her.

Lol.. I did type it in full! It's obviously censored by the swear filter.

I honestly can't think if a more offensive word.. But I don't think a hm quoting some ody else can be deemed offensive.