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Well yes but unfortunately not everyone holds this view, in some quarters, the case has been cracked and they are ready to send them down.
There are an awful lot of discrepancies and what ifs but you do have to hold on to the fact that it is innocent until proven guilty...
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No there was Cadaver scent on Kate's clothes and Maddies soft toy, she said it was on her clothes because of the job she done before she went on holiday and that the scent was on the soft toy because she took that to work with her.
Ah. Bit odd that she'd have the soft toy not only in work but in the vicinity to come onto contact with a dead body.

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The original site bandwidth is exceeded since last night but here is another one from google.

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.bl...f-cadaver.html
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I know a lot of people are genuinely interested and asking questions to find out more information, but it's the certainty that the McCanns are guilty in some quarters of the internet that is sickening. They've already decided the outcome, so now they only read the information that gets them there, and call everything else lies, media spin, and government protection. Complete confirmation bias.
I agree tbh.
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I don't agree... I think being led by the nose is sickening, nobody educates themselves anymore we are spoonfed the information it is deemed appropriate for us to have and nothing more.
I think it's important to retain as much individuality and impartiality as possible.
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I don't agree... I think being led by the nose is sickening, nobody educates themselves anymore we are spoonfed the information it is deemed appropriate for us to have and nothing more.
I think it's important to retain as much individuality and impartiality as possible.
That's true. But I think Jesus was referring more to people deciding already whether they're guilty or innocent and then only pay attention to information that corresponds to that viewpoint and automatically rubbishing anything that contradicts it.

Actually educating yourself and making an informed decision is definitely important, I agree with you there.
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Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.
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Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.
umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.
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It was an interesting show, I dont think we'll ever get answers but all the best.
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Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
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It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.
Opinions and facts are 2 different things Kizzy ,and when you have the facts the rest just falls into place
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umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.
Read case files and witness statements ...educate yourself
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I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.


The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.
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What's strange about that pic?
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Well if you cant see that MTVN,it must just be me
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I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.


The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.
How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?
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How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?
They were still in Portugal annie ,I don't know the exact date as I was sent it via email,I will try and find out.
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I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.


The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.
In that photo, you can clearly see that they have a film crew with them, and you can see quite a lot of staring people in hte background too. I think it's fair to assume that there are probably well wishers or rubberneckers staring at them from in front as well, so maybe they are smiling at them, as if to acknowledge the kindness shown towards them?

I think it would be a couple of very stupid people, who, after murdering their child, decided to go on a smiley walkabout.
 
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Are there any mock pictures of what she would look like now?
I think there are some in this thread somewhere. I definitely remember seeing them about, but there has been so much stuff recently, I could be mistaken in where I saw them. I know they have definitely been made.
 
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In that photo, you can clearly see that they have a film crew with them, and you can see quite a lot of staring people in hte background too. I think it's fair to assume that there are probably well wishers or rubberneckers staring at them from in front as well, so maybe they are smiling at them, as if to acknowledge the kindness shown towards them?

I think it would be a couple of very stupid people, who, after murdering their child, decided to go on a smiley walkabout.
I didn't say they had murdered her Jesus,and as I said it's probably just me reading the pic wrong.
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I didn't say they had murdered her Jesus,and as I said it's probably just me reading the pic wrong.
That's fair enough. I thought you were implying it was murder because in the text underneath the pic, you wrote abducted is in quotation marks, which implies something else

But no worries. and I wasn't accusing you of accusing them of murder.
 
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umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.
There are facts alex, as stated there are links to witness statements.
Read them and you'll see the difference between fact and opinion.
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Tbh, Alex is right. There really isn't a lot to go on. There are no actual witnesses or hard evidence to the abduction itself.
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That's fair enough. I thought you were implying it was murder because in the text underneath the pic, you wrote abducted is in quotation marks, which implies something else

But no worries. and I wasn't accusing you of accusing them of murder.
I should have made it clearer the text you refer to came with the pic,so those aren't my words,I can see why you thought that.
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Tbh, Alex is right. There really isn't a lot to go on. There are no actual witnesses or hard evidence to the abduction itself.
That's not the point, the links provided are still factual and not as suggested opinion or heresay.
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2 weeks after Maddies demise
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Bit unfair to caption a split second photograph.

Like when people are snapped half blinking and made to look like they're blind drunk.
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