[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Kates clothes had Maddie cadaver on them ,she knows exactly what happened

Cadaver? It was just traces of blood wasn't it? That's no proof of Kate being near her corpse.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Cadaver? It was just traces of blood wasn't it? That's no proof of Kate being near her corpse.

No there was Cadaver scent on Kate's clothes and Maddies soft toy, she said it was on her clothes because of the job she done before she went on holiday and that the scent was on the soft toy because she took that to work with her.

Originally Posted by Josy

No there was Cadaver scent on Kate's clothes and Maddies soft toy, she said it was on her clothes because of the job she done before she went on holiday and that the scent was on the soft toy because she took that to work with her.

Have you got those quotes?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Have you got those quotes?

The original site bandwidth is exceeded since last night but here is another one from google.

Kate McCann explains smell of cadaver on her clothes

Kate McCann justified the smell of a cadaver detected by the British specially trained dog on her pair of jeans, t-shirt and on the pink toy from Madeleine because, as a doctor, she was present in several death incidents, while in the UK, before coming to Portugal on holidays, according to today's edition of Correio da Manhă. She said that, as a doctor in Leicester, she faced at least six of those situations, in the months before coming to Portugal. The pink toy, she said, has been with her on her working place, several times.

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.bl...f-cadaver.html

Cheers, I didn't realise she'd ever tried to provide any kind of explanation for that. I'll have a read.

[Josy]

This is where I read it

http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

There is a lot more info on there but the bandwidth has been exceeded so I'm not sure if they will get it back up and running or not.

[chuff me dizzy]

Niamh i found this for you, I was going to Pm you it, but thought others may want to watch it too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEGRfyQq2yU




Take close notice of 4.58 where Gerry claims poice dogs totally unrealiable, the dogs to date have an 100% record

6.19 Why did Gerry throw dummy out of his pram when cornered by a perfectly suitable question ?

7.19 the secret film of "devastated Gerry "was taken 6 DAYS after Maddies

9.00 crying interview notice all Kates tongue clicking ,no eye contact demise

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Niamh i found this for you, I was going to Pm you it, but thought others may want to watch it too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEGRfyQq2yU




Take close notice of 4.58 where Gerry claims poice dogs totally unrealiable, the dogs to date have an 100% record

6.19 Why did Gerry throw dummy out of his pram when cornered by a perfectly suitable question ?

7.19 the secret film of "devastated Gerry "was taken 6 DAYS after Maddies

9.00 crying interview notice all Kates tongue clicking ,no eye contact demise

There is absolutely nothing, other than the claims of the handler that verifies a 100% hit rate. And a court in the US accepted proof that dogs were no more than 30-40% accurate. There is loads of stuff about the dogs that is completely different from the claims being made against the mccanns.

[Niamh.]

Thanks Chuff. I was doing a little bit of reading on it and tbh I'm not sure the dogs prove anything :

http://exposingthemyths.blogspot.ie/...s-are-not.html

[Lee.]

I'm not sure if I'm right, but can't the smell of a dead body remain on items for months, maybe years even after being washed? If this is the case, Kate's explanation is very believable. She's bound to have been in contact with dead bodies on many occasions?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'm not sure if I'm right, but can't the smell of a dead body remain on items for months, maybe years even after being washed? If this is the case, Kate's explanation is very believable. She's bound to have been in contact with dead bodies on many occasions?

You have to be in contact with a dead body for something like one hour thirty minutes before the smell can attach to you apparently, I wasn't aware GP's stayed with a body for hours to pronounce a death.

Added to that Kate supposedly only worked 1 and a half days per week.

But yeah I suppose her explanation for her clothes is believable the only thing I would think strange then is that doctors normally don't wear jeans to work and that she took her work clothes on holiday.

The explanation about the teddy is a little more unbelievable.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks Chuff. I was doing a little bit of reading on it and tbh I'm not sure the dogs prove anything :

http://exposingthemyths.blogspot.ie/...s-are-not.html

Niamh you are on a pro site there, well known for lies ,this has links to unbiased reports on the dogs used in case please scroll down and read all the references to them ,not by Maddie defenders by police and F.B.I http://www.mccannfiles.com/id157.html

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Niamh you are on a pro site there, well known for lies ,this has links to unbiased reports on the dogs used in case please scroll down and read all the references to them ,not by Maddie defenders by police and F.B.I http://www.mccannfiles.com/id157.html

Yeah, there's so much stuff out there it's difficult to know which ones are accurate and which ones are not

[Josy]

I was reading something interesting earlier, on one of those websites they were claiming it was strange that the McCanns were so quick to have images ready to hand out and that that was suspicious behaviour etc...but then reading another link to witness statements (I think the one that Vicky posted) blew that accusation right out the water because one of the hotel managers actually says in her statement that she went to get her printer, carried it back and used the McCanns memory card to do the printouts.

That just shows how some of the websites fabricate things to further their own points.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Josy

I was reading something interesting earlier, on one of those websites they were claiming it was strange that the McCanns were so quick to have images ready to hand out and that that was suspicious behaviour etc...but then reading another link to witness statements (I think the one that Vicky posted) blew that accusation right out the water because one of the hotel managers actually says in her statement that she went to get her printer, carried it back and used the McCanns memory card to do the printouts.

That just shows how some of the websites fabricate things to further their own points.

The amount of misinformation and contradictory reports on the case is criminal in itself. I wish there was a way of prosecuting people for disseminating incorrect information it would stop a lot of the internet detectives in their tracks.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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The amount of misinformation and contradictory reports on the case is criminal in itself. I wish there was a way of prosecuting people for disseminating incorrect information it would stop a lot of the internet detectives in their tracks.

Yeah that's why I'm finding reading all these websites so interesting, you can read something as absolute proof on one then the next one you read completely tears it apart with a rational explanation.

[lostalex]

I don't think they killed their own daughter. don't they have other kids? why would they only kill maddie and not kill the other kids too?

Originally Posted by Cherie

[/B]

The amount of misinformation and contradictory reports on the case is criminal in itself. I wish there was a way of prosecuting people for disseminating incorrect information it would stop a lot of the internet detectives in their tracks.

I know a lot of people are genuinely interested and asking questions to find out more information, but it's the certainty that the McCanns are guilty in some quarters of the internet that is sickening. They've already decided the outcome, so now they only read the information that gets them there, and call everything else lies, media spin, and government protection. Complete confirmation bias.

[Lee.]

I was given a book re the maddie case recently. It's apparently banned here and I was assured that after reading it, I'd be certain of the McCanns guilt.. I read most of it and can honestly say I've her read so much **** in my life. Pure propaganda and supposition.
I genuinely believe the Portuguese police were under immense pressure from the media to name a suspect, they couldn't, so pointed the finger at the parents.

[Ninastar]

I agree lee.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I know a lot of people are genuinely interested and asking questions to find out more information, but it's the certainty that the McCanns are guilty in some quarters of the internet that is sickening. They've already decided the outcome, so now they only read the information that gets them there, and call everything else lies, media spin, and government protection. Complete confirmation bias.

Yep.

[lostalex]

This case makes me think of the Amanda Knox case. The witch hunt aspect I mean.

[Nedusa]

So after 672 posts what have we learned ? Are we any further forward or like most people are we as puzzled and perplexed as ever at this case .

I just wish one piece of major incontrovertible evidence could be found which at least narrows down the options and at least points firmly to one particular theory.

Currently it's just speculation and guesswork..!!!

Do you know what shocks me the most?


Lee can read?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

So after 672 posts what have we learned ? Are we any further forward or like most people are we as puzzled and perplexed as ever at this case .

I just wish one piece of major incontrovertible evidence could be found which at least narrows down the options and at least points firmly to one particular theory.

Currently it's just speculation and guesswork..!!!

Well yes but unfortunately not everyone holds this view, in some quarters, the case has been cracked and they are ready to send them down.