[Nemo123]

TV advertising has clamped down on smoking, and even subliminal advertising, like showing characters smoke on soaps, has been all but cut out. So, should it be cut out of Big Brother?

[Niamh.]

alot of the best conversations happen at the smoking area so no

[Rob!]

No... BB is a reality show. People smoke, like people swear, people argue, people bitch. Plus, the cigs are usually used as some form of tension build at some point.

[Nemo123]

Smoking is possibly the most unhealthy thing you can do. So, should it be encouraged?
I think it shouldn't be allowed on BB, on reality TV, because the viewer is encouraged to feel a bond with the star, like in no other way, much stronger. It's reality TV, and if part of that reality is smoking, it's spreading an unhealthy consumer product, and encouraging the consumption of it.

[Josy]

No.

Drinking isn't exactly the healthiest thing you can do should they be stopped from doing that too?

[Glenn.]

People will always smoke. Ban it from television all you want. People were smoking long before TV was even invented.

[Jordan.]

no

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Josy

No.

Drinking isn't exactly the healthiest thing you can do should they be stopped from doing that too?

Smoking is a random carcinogenic. Drinking is more of a compounded carcinogenic. In other words, no amount of tobacco is safe, whereas if you stay within health guidelines for alcohol, you'll be OK.

[Glenn.]

In extreme cases you can die from alcohol intoxication. You can't die from smoking a cigarette. Not immediately anyway.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Glenn

People will always smoke. Ban it from television all you want. People were smoking long before TV was even invented.

Here in Ireland, we were the first country in Europe to ban smoking in the workplace. Now a store has to hide its cigarettes behind a screen, with no labelling. There's no advertising of tobacco here in Ireland, and it is making a difference. It's weaning people off fags. And Big Brother should do its bit too.

[Glenn.]

The hiding cigarettes behind a screen is here too. Doesn't stop people smoking.

[Ramsay]

[MTVN]

But smoking is cool

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Glenn

In extreme cases you can die from alcohol intoxication. You can't die from smoking a cigarette. Not immediately anyway.

It's copycat behaviour, and what's cool. BB is fairly responsible with the boose. It's beer or wine. And it's rationed.
Yet smoking is unrestricted. It's bizarre. It's sending out the wrong messages. Fags are goin' to kill you. Not boose!

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Glenn

The hiding cigarettes behind a screen is here too. Doesn't stop people smoking.

I do think it does. You wean people off. And the worse thing you can do is to put role models on telly smoking, and encouraging people to smoke. Do a service, Ch5, don't allow smokers.

[T*]

While we're at it we should stop them drinking booze and install chips in everyone's head so when they swear they get electrocuted.

No.

[joeysteele]

No, you cannot expect people to commit to 3 weeks or more of a programme that is filmed 24 hours a day and deny them the right to smoke if they so desire to do so.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No, you cannot expect people to commit to 3 weeks or more of a programme that is filmed 24 hours a day and deny them the right to smoke if they so desire to do so.

Yes you can. If someone promised you a hundred grand to give up cigarettes for a week, or 3, would you say no?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Yes you can. If someone promised you a hundred grand to give up cigarettes for a week, or 3, would you say no?

I don't smoke and never have, the point is if I did and I felt I could give it up then I would probably for a length of time but I still wouldn't really agree to such a decision being forced on me anyway,especially on a show like BB.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't smoke and never have, the point is if I did and I felt I could give it up then I would probably for a length of time but I still wouldn't really agree to such a decision being forced on me anyway,especially on a show like BB.

How can it be forced on you? It's a condition, take it or leave it!
The benefit is we don't have role models sucking gasps of poison into their lungs and encouraging everyone else to do so.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

How can it be forced on you? It's a condition, take it or leave it!
The benefit is we don't have role models sucking gasps of poison into their lungs and encouraging everyone else to do so.

Right, as this may go on and on, I will now answer that if it was a condition that I had to not smoke for over 3 weeks on BB or any other simliar show or I don't get paid,then if I was a regular smoker I would have to decline going on it.

If it is a condition that cannot be negotiated in order to get the fee for going on such a show then it is, in all fact, a condition being forced on you.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Right, as this may go on and on, I will now answer that if it was a condition that I had to not smoke for over 3 weeks on BB or any other simliar show or I don't get paid,then if I was a regular smoker I would have to decline going on it.

If it is a condition that cannot be negotiated in order to get the fee for going on such a show then it is, in all fact, a condition being forced on you.

No it's not.

It's a condition. Take it or leave it. No coercion involved.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No for god sakes.

Producers cant say *No you cant be a housemate because you smoke.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

No it's not.

It's a condition. Take it or leave it. No coercion involved.

Fair enough you think that.

However to me conditions that cannot be negotiated are forced conditions on the individual.
If you are saying to someone I will only give you this if you agree to totally stop this or that for the whole period you are connected then you are forcing a condition on someone.
If they don't accept that condition, then the only option open to them is to decline and then lose out.

I wouldn't agree with that.
I could on certain activities hold off doing something I enjoyed or even was sort of addicted to, if I was to anything.
On a show however like BB which is what the thread asks, then no,I would not agree to that and I don't think smoking should be banned during it too,especially since it is a legal activity in the UK anyway.

[Samm]

I don't smoke but it's there own choice. So no