[Marsh.]

Or cherry popping, eh Niamh...

[Vanessa]

Maybe she fancies him? he is quite handsome.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, a few minutes before that she was hugging Christopher and telling him she that was the best person in the world, I think she was just drunk She actually seems like a very lovable drunk, before that again she was saying to chris and christopher that she'd be happy for Pav, Ash or Helen to win as well. The cherry picking here is crazy

Have you forgotten Ashleigh nominated Christopher last week, her so called best mate instead of Ash and Pav who at the most has uttered a dozen words to

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Have you forgotten Ashleigh nominated Christopher last week, her so called best mate instead of Ash and Pav who at the most has uttered a dozen words to

She's so fake it's not even funny.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Have you forgotten Ashleigh nominated Christopher last week, her so called best mate instead of Ash and Pav who at the most has uttered a dozen words to

She did nominate Pav actually ......

[Marsh.]

I think they avoided Ash to avoid Helen's wrath.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She did nominate Pav actually ......

But let's not let facts get in the way of a good moan, shall we?

[Marmalite]

I agree.

She be put on a pedestal once again by BB and she knew exactly what she was doing.

She's was attracted to Ash since the beginning and my strong belief is that the reason for her attitude to Helen is more a case of she hated the fact that the men, especially Ash, flocked to Helen rather than her.

I expect she's so used to having the male attention outside the house that she expected the all the male attention in the house expecting them to flock to her, but she didn't get it.

She's fancied Ash since day 1 and when he didn't try to make enough of an effort with her after she continued to nominate him, she took it out on Helen.

Drunk or not her true feelings and spiteful personality were shown once again.

[wormsinfested]

Ashleigh or Helen, they are both the same to me...nasty bitches.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

I agree.

She be put on a pedestal once again by BB and she knew exactly what she was doing.

She's was attracted to Ash since the beginning and my strong belief is that the reason for her attitude to Helen is more a case of she hated the fact that the men, especially Ash, flocked to Helen rather than her.

I expect she's so used to having the male attention outside the house that she expected the all the male attention in the house expecting them to flock to her, but she didn't get it.

She's fancied Ash since day 1 and when he didn't try to make enough of an effort with her after she continued to nominate him, she took it out on Helen.

Drunk or not her true feelings and spiteful personality were shown once again.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

I agree.

She be put on a pedestal once again by BB and she knew exactly what she was doing.

She's was attracted to Ash since the beginning and my strong belief is that the reason for her attitude to Helen is more a case of she hated the fact that the men, especially Ash, flocked to Helen rather than her.

I expect she's so used to having the male attention outside the house that she expected the all the male attention in the house expecting them to flock to her, but she didn't get it.

She's fancied Ash since day 1 and when he didn't try to make enough of an effort with her after she continued to nominate him, she took it out on Helen.

Drunk or not her true feelings and spiteful personality were shown once again.

That's so insulting and disrespectful to her boyfriend who she's been incredibly loyal to and respectful of

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's so insulting and disrespectful to her boyfriend who she's been incredibly loyal to and respectful of

I don't know her boyfriend so how am I being insulting and disrespectful of him? His girlfriend went on a reality game show fgs. If he chooses to read my post then he can decide for himself whether he agrees or not can't he? And if he doesn't then he is more than welcome to reply to my post and defend both her and himself!

I've felt since the beginning that she's had the hots for Ash and that has caused much of the issues she has with both Helen and Ash. Can you say for certain that if Ash had shown her any interest she would not have shown some back, whether she had a boyfriend outside or not? I very much doubt you can unless you know her personally!

Tell me, even though Helen is no longer a prostitute and runs her own business do you pull other posters up for calling Helen a *****, etc because it may be insulting and disrespectful to her son?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

I don't know her boyfriend so how am I being insulting and disrespectful of him? His girlfriend went on a reality game show fgs. If he chooses to read my post then he can decide for himself whether he agrees or not can't he? And if he doesn't then he is more than welcome to reply to my post and defend both her and himself!

I've felt since the beginning that she's had the hots for Ash and that has caused much of the issues she has with both Helen and Ash. Can you say for certain that if Ash had shown her any interest she would not have shown some back, whether she had a boyfriend outside or not? I very much doubt you can unless you know her personally!

Tell me, even though Helen is no longer a prostitute and runs her own business do you pull other posters up for calling Helen a *****, etc because it may be insulting and disrespectful to her son?

I can say that she's not flirted with him or in any way given me the impression that she would, yeah

As to your point about Helen, I've said numerous times this series that I hate the words *****, slut etc and I think it's disgusting to call someone that, especially when it's one woman calling another it, I'm not sure why you think I would think that's ok?

[Cold Sweat]

So Ashleigh needs to tread on egg shells around Helen?

Ashleigh is criticised for not interacting… and still criticised when she does interact.

Right…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cold Sweat

So Ashleigh needs to tread on egg shells around Helen?

Ashleigh is criticised for not interacting… and still criticised when she does interact.

Right…

I know, Helen complains cos she's miserable and never wants to have fun, then when she does let her hair down and have fun, Helen has a face like thunder

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I think they avoided Ash to avoid Helen's wrath.

Wait.. Is this sarcasm?

Last night you completely refuted my comment that people would become friends with or behave in a certain way around Helen through fear, and now they're avoiding Ash to avoid Helen having a go at them?

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know, Helen complains cos she's miserable and never wants to have fun, then when she does let her hair down and have fun, Helen has a face like thunder

Ha true! I never really noticed that actually!

[T*]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

She was drunk, drunk people get cuddly/affectionate nothing more too it

Yeah, it's just an act of kindness.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I can say that she's not flirted with him or in any way given me the impression that she would, yeah

That's probably because:

1. She doesn't do the chasing, she expects men to chase her.
2. She ostracised herself when she became Toya's bitching partner.
3. She ostracised herself again when she became Danielle's bitching partner.
4. She ostracised herself yet again when she became Chris's bitching partner.
5. She's mostly miserable and unhappy and basically zaps the life out of people with her negativity and bitchiness, so most avoid her.

You are entitled to you opinion, as I am to mine. As I said before, I have always felt that she fancied Ash, but he did not show her enough attention and this has been a contributing factor to the issues in the house between her and certain others.

Last night when she did not move over but stayed sitting close to him (almost on top of him) and then put her head on his shoulder made me even more convinced of this.

That's my opinion whether she has a boyfriend outside or not!

As to your point about Helen, I've said numerous times this series that I hate the words *****, slut etc and I think it's disgusting to call someone that, especially when it's one woman calling another it, I'm not sure why you think I would think that's ok?

That's good to hear. I shall look out for you telling the next poster who calls Helen a *****, just how disrespectful and insulting it is to her son.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

That's probably because:

1. She doesn't do the chasing, she expects men to chase her.
2. She ostracised herself when she became Toya's bitching partner.
3. She ostracised herself again when she became Danielle's bitching partner.
4. She ostracised herself yet again when she became Chris's bitching partner.
5. She's mostly miserable and unhappy and basically zaps the life out of people with her negativity and bitchiness, so most avoid her.

You are entitled to you opinion, as I am to mine. As I said before, I have always felt that she fancied Ash, but he did not show her enough attention and this has been a contributing factor to the issues in the house between her and certain others.

Last night when she did not move over but stayed sitting close to him (almost on top of him) and then put her head on his shoulder made me even more convinced of this.

That's my opinion whether she has a boyfriend outside or not!



That's good to hear. I shall look out for you telling the next poster who calls Helen a *****, just how disrespectful and insulting it is to her son.

Brilliant post by the way.

And just look at the timing of her snuggling into Ash. The first time she has done such a thing - right when Helen is at her most upset.

Ashleigh showed her true colours last night and it was horrible.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I'm an Ashleigh fan, and do believe she was probably doing it to be spiteful to Helen. Maybe she wouldn't have done it if she hadn't been drunk, and maaaaybe she was just being nice, but I'm pretty certain she was spiting Helen

Not so sure myself tbh. When one is drunk one gets to love everyone and Ashleigh was really drunk. A lot of Helen's trouble has been the public perception of Ashleigh, thus voting her for a lot of the tasks. She has had a good reception whereas most of the others have been downed left right and centre. Helen must have been feeling very jealous of it all as she has had a lot of negativity thrown at her. They are the last two women standing, one by her own efforts and the other by Paulines.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

That's probably because:

1. She doesn't do the chasing, she expects men to chase her.
2. She ostracised herself when she became Toya's bitching partner.
3. She ostracised herself again when she became Danielle's bitching partner.
4. She ostracised herself yet again when she became Chris's bitching partner.
5. She's mostly miserable and unhappy and basically zaps the life out of people with her negativity and bitchiness, so most avoid her.

You are entitled to you opinion, as I am to mine. As I said before, I have always felt that she fancied Ash, but he did not show her enough attention and this has been a contributing factor to the issues in the house between her and certain others.

Last night when she did not move over but stayed sitting close to him (almost on top of him) and then put her head on his shoulder made me even more convinced of this.

That's my opinion whether she has a boyfriend outside or not!



That's good to hear. I shall look out for you telling the next poster who calls Helen a *****, just how disrespectful and insulting it is to her son.

She was all over Christopher as well though, seemed to me that she's just a "nice" drunk, she becomes overly affectionate rather than aggressive

"That's good to hear. I shall look out for you telling the next poster who calls Helen a *****, just how disrespectful and insulting it is to her son"

Wonderful......

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Brilliant post by the way.

And just look at the timing of her snuggling into Ash. The first time she has done such a thing - right when Helen is at her most upset.

Ashleigh showed her true colours last night and it was horrible.

Or because she had too much to drink.......... Jeez she was being really nice to and about everyone last night, including Helen

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

That's probably because:

1. She doesn't do the chasing, she expects men to chase her.
2. She ostracised herself when she became Toya's bitching partner.
3. She ostracised herself again when she became Danielle's bitching partner.
4. She ostracised herself yet again when she became Chris's bitching partner.
5. She's mostly miserable and unhappy and basically zaps the life out of people with her negativity and bitchiness, so most avoid her.

You are entitled to you opinion, as I am to mine. As I said before, I have always felt that she fancied Ash, but he did not show her enough attention and this has been a contributing factor to the issues in the house between her and certain others.

Last night when she did not move over but stayed sitting close to him (almost on top of him) and then put her head on his shoulder made me even more convinced of this.

That's my opinion whether she has a boyfriend outside or not!



That's good to hear. I shall look out for you telling the next poster who calls Helen a *****, just how disrespectful and insulting it is to her son.

100% agree, she was playing mind games.. She felt so powerful after that she claimed the alpha male, it's all so primal

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Not so sure myself tbh. When one is drunk one gets to love everyone and Ashleigh was really drunk. A lot of Helen's trouble has been the public perception of Ashleigh, thus voting her for a lot of the tasks. She has had a good reception whereas most of the others have been downed left right and centre. Helen must have been feeling very jealous of it all as she has had a lot of negativity thrown at her. They are the last two women standing, one by her own efforts and the other by Paulines.

Yeah I really am in two minds about whether it was spitefulness or drunkenness As other posters have pointed out, she was really emotional with Christopher too, and she never shows emotion to anyone really. It could have been drink, mixed with homesickness, mixed with happiness about the outcome of the trial task.

And yes, whether you're a Helen fan or not, she does come across as terribly jealous. Her DR rant the other day about Ashleigh's reaction when she gets picked for all the good stuff oozed jealousy. Not sure what Helen's problem is with Ashleigh saying "thank you" in a soft voice?

On the other hand, I don't think Ashleigh is jealous of Helen, but is possibly bitter that a lot of people in the house have had a positive opinion on her and have allowed her to try to rule over the house.