[DemolitionRed]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ushpmg00000022

[Niamh.]

quite possibly

[arista]

Yes from the Other Earth
that will take us 50 years to reach

[Nedusa]

Yes...... The Ancient Astronaut theory

It's about as valid as any other theory.





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[MTVN]

Nah mate

[billy123]

Probably.
The chances are more in favour of that being the case than not.

[DemolitionRed]

I like the idea that we were seeded from another planet.

We just need them to turn up and tell us all that they seeded religion as a propaganda experiment.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ushpmg00000022

I was reading an article the other day supposedly claiming that the major world governments are all already aware of the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life but it's kept under wraps for fear of the civil unrest that might be caused by having a massive spanner suddenly thrown into people's belief systems. It was slightly conspiracy-theoryish but very interesting nonetheless and also, in my opinion, entirely feasible. Imagine the implications?

Basic extraterrestrial life has been all but proven, with micro-organism fossils being found inside meteorites that couldn't possibly have originated on earth. Obviously it's a far cry from sentient beings like humans or even more basic animal life forms, but in my opinion, if these building blocks are available in the "local" galaxy - close enough to have fossils reach earth - and in an abundance great enough for that to happen (Earth is a tiny target in a huge expanse of space, if a few life-proving meteorites have landed on earth then there are potentially billions of such meteorites floating around out there in the void) then for me it logically follows that somewhere out there, there simply MUST be other life forms as intelligent or even far more intelligent than humans.

I find it all really quite exciting. However, my somewhat depressing theory is that physical faster-than-light travel may well be completely impossible and that other sentient civilisations could therefore be permanently out of reach. I'd like to think that maybe though, one day when we understand more about space and time and the strange ways in which they interact, it might at least be possible to send messages back and forth between ourselves and others.

It would all feel a bit safer that way, too. We could share scientific discoveries, philosophies, jokes, awesome alien TV shows (they could watch EastEnders and it would be like science fiction!)... but with physical contact being impossible, we wouldn't have to worry about pesky thinks like interstellar invasions and space battles over resource asteroids.

Which is actually a shame because the latter sounds awesome.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

We just need them to turn up and tell us all that they seeded religion as a propaganda experiment.

"...it was actually a children's book, Glarfblurk the Mischievous sent it to Earth as a joke, he didn't realise that people would take it so seriously. He is very sorry."

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was reading an article the other day supposedly claiming that the major world governments are all already aware of the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life but it's kept under wraps for fear of the civil unrest that might be caused by having a massive spanner suddenly thrown into people's belief systems. It was slightly conspiracy-theoryish but very interesting nonetheless and also, in my opinion, entirely feasible. Imagine the implications?

Basic extraterrestrial life has been all but proven, with micro-organism fossils being found inside meteorites that couldn't possibly have originated on earth. Obviously it's a far cry from sentient beings like humans or even more basic animal life forms, but in my opinion, if these building blocks are available in the "local" galaxy - close enough to have fossils reach earth - and in an abundance great enough for that to happen (Earth is a tiny target in a huge expanse of space, if a few life-proving meteorites have landed on earth then there are potentially billions of such meteorites floating around out there in the void) then for me it logically follows that somewhere out there, there simply MUST be other life forms as intelligent or even far more intelligent than humans.

I find it all really quite exciting. However, my somewhat depressing theory is that physical faster-than-light travel may well be completely impossible and that other sentient civilisations could therefore be permanently out of reach. I'd like to think that maybe though, one day when we understand more about space and time and the strange ways in which they interact, it might at least be possible to send messages back and forth between ourselves and others.

It would all feel a bit safer that way, too. We could share scientific discoveries, philosophies, jokes, awesome alien TV shows (they could watch EastEnders and it would be like science fiction!)... but with physical contact being impossible, we wouldn't have to worry about pesky thinks like interstellar invasions and space battles over resource asteroids.

Which is actually a shame because the latter sounds awesome.

Interesting post TS...regarding the bit I bolded; our governments wouldn't want us to know because without religion they wouldn't have enough excuses to go to war!

I've always wondered if we appeared from deposited DNA from exploding planets. If so, I'm sure spiders didn't come from the same planet as us

[kirklancaster]

I firmly believe in life on other planets, but as to Aliens seeding life on earth or being our creators, I am left with that age old unanswered question; Who created the aliens?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I firmly believe in life on other planets, but as to Aliens seeding life on earth or being our creators, I am left with that age old unanswered question; Who created the aliens?

asking who created the aliens doesn't make it not possible for Aliens to have created us though

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

asking who created the aliens doesn't make it not possible for Aliens to have created us though

No, I agree there Niamh.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No, I agree there Niamh.

Personally I don't think we'll ever truly know where the "beginning" was and what caused it or even if we're capable of understanding it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I'm sure spiders didn't come from the same planet as us

I refuse to believe that I developed from the same single-celled organisms as those little horrors. The aliens must have sent the wrong tiny ball by accident.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Personally I don't think we'll ever truly know where the "beginning" was and what caused it or even if we're capable of understanding it

I agree. I think if we ever did, those of us of faith will either be sorry we wasted our time or those without faith will be wishing they'd had a little.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I refuse to believe that I developed from the same single-celled organisms as those little horrors. The aliens must have sent the wrong tiny ball by accident.

You were created with a steel helmet, battle fatigues and a AK47 already donned.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I agree. I think if we ever did, those of us of faith will either be sorry we wasted our time or those without faith will be wishing they'd had a little.

haha, well for me I don't think I would regret not having faith if it was proven there was a God because even if there is how does "he/she" honestly expect people to just blindly follow a man made organisation like that? (with many conflicting religions in the world too and lets be honest here the vast majority of religious people are whatever religion they are due to what part of the world they happened to be born in)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I firmly believe in life on other planets, but as to Aliens seeding life on earth or being our creators, I am left with that age old unanswered question; Who created the aliens?

Maybe we did! Humans created them. We created them and they, in turn, created us. Sort of like the inverse of the "Grandfather paradox" (or the Sarah Connor paradox as I prefer to call it ).

Alternatively, it's sort of like that nonsense with the black hole in "Interstellar"

Spoiler:

In which they travel across the galaxy through a wormhole following a message of unknown origins, but it turns out in the end that it was actually them who sent the message by manipulating space-time, possibly with the aid of an advanced future civilization of humans on the other side of the wormhole, that they actually created themselves.

But it actually makes no sense at all and for me ruined what was shaping up to be an excellent film

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Personally I don't think we'll ever truly know where the "beginning" was and what caused it or even if we're capable of understanding it

Some theoretical physicists pondering lately, in regards to new discoveries in quantum mechanics, whether or not there actually was any "beginning" at all, and in fact whether the term "beginning" in terms of the universe actually even has meaning. We already know that "time" isn't exactly what it seems to be, and the idea of a necessary "beginning" or "cause" is based entirely on a linear understanding of time.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Maybe we did! Humans created them. We created them and they, in turn, created us. Sort of like the inverse of the "Grandfather paradox" (or the Sarah Connor paradox as I prefer to call it ).

Alternatively, it's sort of like that nonsense with the black hole in "Interstellar"

Spoiler:

In which they travel across the galaxy through a wormhole following a message of unknown origins, but it turns out in the end that it was actually them who sent the message by manipulating space-time, possibly with the aid of an advanced future civilization of humans on the other side of the wormhole, that they actually created themselves.

But it actually makes no sense at all and for me ruined what was shaping up to be an excellent film

Some theoretical physicists pondering lately, in regards to new discoveries in quantum mechanics, whether or not there actually was any "beginning" at all, and in fact whether the term "beginning" in terms of the universe actually even has meaning. We already know that "time" isn't exactly what it seems to be, and the idea of a necessary "beginning" or "cause" is based entirely on a linear understanding of time.

Yeah, that's what I mean, I don't think we're even capable of getting our heads round it. Time travel movies really confuse me.....I have no hope anyway

[Niamh.]

Oh just read your post on Interseller TS, I agree lol

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You were created with a steel helmet, battle fatigues and a AK47 already donned.

This is untrue! I had an interchangeable G36 and FN FAL.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was reading an article the other day supposedly claiming that the major world governments are all already aware of the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life but it's kept under wraps for fear of the civil unrest that might be caused by having a massive spanner suddenly thrown into people's belief systems. It was slightly conspiracy-theoryish but very interesting nonetheless and also, in my opinion, entirely feasible. Imagine the implications?

Basic extraterrestrial life has been all but proven, with micro-organism fossils being found inside meteorites that couldn't possibly have originated on earth. Obviously it's a far cry from sentient beings like humans or even more basic animal life forms, but in my opinion, if these building blocks are available in the "local" galaxy - close enough to have fossils reach earth - and in an abundance great enough for that to happen (Earth is a tiny target in a huge expanse of space, if a few life-proving meteorites have landed on earth then there are potentially billions of such meteorites floating around out there in the void) then for me it logically follows that somewhere out there, there simply MUST be other life forms as intelligent or even far more intelligent than humans.

I find it all really quite exciting. However, my somewhat depressing theory is that physical faster-than-light travel may well be completely impossible and that other sentient civilisations could therefore be permanently out of reach. I'd like to think that maybe though, one day when we understand more about space and time and the strange ways in which they interact, it might at least be possible to send messages back and forth between ourselves and others.

It would all feel a bit safer that way, too. We could share scientific discoveries, philosophies, jokes, awesome alien TV shows (they could watch EastEnders and it would be like science fiction!)... but with physical contact being impossible, we wouldn't have to worry about pesky thinks like interstellar invasions and space battles over resource asteroids.

Which is actually a shame because the latter sounds awesome.

Welcome to my World.........






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[Nedusa]

Advanced Beings made of Energy would be massless and so could travel at the speed of light (or faster).

Only thing is when they arrived we wouldn't be able to shake their hands......





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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Advanced Beings made of Energy would be massless and so could travel at the speed of light (or faster).

Only thing is when they arrived we wouldn't be able to shake their hands......





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Well there's that, too. What we can perceive as human is a miniscule fraction of the whole of existence - we already know that because, with technology, we can perceive a hundred times more that is beyond our physical senses (infrared, ultraviolet, and everything beyond that in either direction) so it is entirely feasible that there are sentient beings all around us, or at least nearby (in intergalactic terms) that are simply not in the same sphere of existence as us. If so, they wouldn't even need to be able to travel fast, they might be "right next door", and it might just be a matter of each developing the technology to "see" each other. Maybe they can even see us already, and are just waiting for us to catch up so that we can communicate. Maybe they've been watching us like a big reality TV show for centuries!