[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That their only policy was immigration?

No...the bit in bold.

[the truth]

I don't really care that much about immigration, certainly not here in rural wales where frankly they could do with a bit more population whether that comes from immigration fair enough. but Europe is the real key issue for me. its an unquantifiable disaster. ask the truck drivers the bus drivers as the delivery drivers train drivers minibus and taxi drivers. the rules and regulations are insane. I dare anyone here to try and understand all of the rules on drivers , the tachos the disks the sheets the check lists the downloads the weights and measures, the torque rules the drivers hours rules, the rest rules etc etc then look into how different countries adhere to these endless rules and how others do not and the different fines for different offences in different areas etc INSANE

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

I don't really care that much about immigration, certainly not here in rural wales where frankly they could do with a bit more population whether that comes from immigration fair enough. but Europe is the real key issue for me. its an unquantifiable disaster. ask the truck drivers the bus drivers as the delivery drivers train drivers minibus and taxi drivers. the rules and regulations are insane. I dare anyone here to try and understand all of the rules on drivers , the tachos the disks the sheets the check lists the downloads the weights and measures, the torque rules the drivers hours rules, the rest rules etc etc then look into how different countries adhere to these endless rules and how others do not and the different fines for different offences in different areas etc INSANE

So it would be easier for truckers travelling internationally to have to learn the individual rules of every single nation they pass through? Which might be completely different upon crossing each border?

I'm not saying you're wrong about there being too much red tape but this is the sort of problem that can only be solved from within. Not by picking up your ball and going home. Many truckers travel throughout Europe and are still going to be subject to EU regulations as soon as they leave the UK... Presumably.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

People in Scotland used to say that about the SNP as well.

Only in the sense that the SNP's primary reason for existence (firstly independence, but in absence of that fighting for Scotland within the UK) would be nullified if independence was achieved... But it hasn't been.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So it would be easier for truckers travelling internationally to have to learn the individual rules of every single nation they pass through? Which might be completely different upon crossing each border?

I'm not saying you're wrong about there being too much red tape but this is the sort of problem that can only be solved from within. Not by picking up your ball and going home. Many truckers travel throughout Europe and are still going to be subject to EU regulations as soon as they leave the UK... Presumably.

I disagree 100% its now a mishmash of all rules from all over the place bits and pieces of vetos here and there different countries adhere others don't, its a joke. in the end the sheer mass of rules and red tape has made it impossible to run these busiensses and its getting worse. this is why all but 2 European nations in the eu are going to the wall. its an unmitigated disaster

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So it would be easier for truckers travelling internationally to have to learn the individual rules of every single nation they pass through? Which might be completely different upon crossing each border?

I'm not saying you're wrong about there being too much red tape but this is the sort of problem that can only be solved from within. Not by picking up your ball and going home. Many truckers travel throughout Europe and are still going to be subject to EU regulations as soon as they leave the UK... Presumably.

Really good post again TS.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Really good post again TS.

no it made no sense at all. youre just sticking to your talking points and refusing to actually think and acknowledge the disastrous effects of the wasteful mindless impractical bankrupt unaccountable unaccounted superstate of the European union. the time has come to deal with real politics as theyre about to run out of other peoples money

[Northern Monkey]

3 at a push i'd say.

[Josy]

After last night I think LT will be the only person in Scotland voting for them

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

After last night I think LT will be the only person in Scotland voting for them

Not everyone watched that



It will be more than just LT.
Be Fair Josy

[Crimson Dynamo]

They could have put someone better up than that buffoon last night

He was almost as bad as the labour guy..

[billy123]

What a shame bye bye silly kippers and good riddance!! BNP lite are failing

Fresh blow for Farage as Ukip support more the HALVES in key battleground constituencies
Ukip's support has fallen in nine out of 10 marginal seats, poll shows
Support for Nigel Farage's party has more than halved in two seats
Comes after leaked poll showed the Ukip leader on course to lose in Thanet
Nationwide support for Ukip has fallen by 25% over the last six months

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ituencies.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bobnot

What a shame bye bye silly kippers and good riddance!! BNP lite are failing


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ituencies.html

a poll from the daily mail who support the Conservatives?

[arista]

Yes Strange that Bob
Loves the DM
all of a sudden

[billy123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a poll from the daily mail who support the Conservatives?

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Strange that Bob
Loves the DM
all of a sudden

Such silliness tell me when i find a source saying the same thing that meets your approval because thats important isnt it

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0MZ1QT20150408
http://rt.com/uk/247801-ukip-britain-first-pact/
http://www.cityam.com/213276/lord-as...ive-held-seats
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...alling-behind/
http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1...oft-poll-shows
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...oft-poll-shows
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...s-falling.html
http://www.theweek.co.uk/election-po...-lose-on-7-may
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...3-just-10.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Such silliness tell me when i find a source saying the same thing that meets your approval because thats important isnt it

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0MZ1QT20150408
http://rt.com/uk/247801-ukip-britain-first-pact/
http://www.cityam.com/213276/lord-as...ive-held-seats
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...alling-behind/
http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1...oft-poll-shows

Bob, polls are polls

wait a few days for the next to arrive to suit your political taste

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Strange that Bob
Loves the DM
all of a sudden

"The Truth Is Out There Mulder."

"Yeah, Scully - I know, but I only read the Daily Mail".

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Such silliness tell me when i find a source saying the same thing that meets your approval because thats important isnt it

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0MZ1QT20150408
http://rt.com/uk/247801-ukip-britain-first-pact/
http://www.cityam.com/213276/lord-as...ive-held-seats
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...alling-behind/
http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1...oft-poll-shows

They may all well be right Bob, we'll have to wait and see, but I think it's a great shame if they prove correct.

By the way - I love your emoticons for LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mr Farage painted a positive picture of a ComRes poll published in the Mail on Sunday which suggested Mr Farage might not win the South Thanet seat on May 7.

He admitted that he was “aware” of the poll, which had been funded by a donor, but said that it “showed us five points ahead on the raw data – I would like it to be more than that clearly.

“The raw data had us ahead but not as far ahead as a previous poll that was conducted six to eight weeks before that.”


He described Ukip’s support as going in “peaks and troughs”, adding: “Share prices have peaks and troughs, we all have peaks and troughs.

“Over the last week we have seen consolidation and Ukip start to rise again. Can we generate the level of excitement to get us up to the kind of numbers that we hit last November.”

He added: “There is no election in history where we have not dipped after an election.

“Even going right back to much smaller numbers we have generally had run ups to polls and then dips and declines afterwards.”


Good article ^^ with Nigel and support - all info here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1151...en-months.html

[billy123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

They may all well be right Bob, we'll have to wait and see, but I think it's a great shame if they prove correct.

By the way - I love your emoticons for LT.

I think it is a great shame that it has once again become a two party race Kirk but i wont be sad to see the demise of UKIP they really aren't a viable other option for me and i wont be sad to see them vanish.
But horses for courses it would be boring if we all agreed.
As for the emoticon i dont even know what its called i just think of it as the trumpet/the truth emoticon

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I think it is a great shame that it has once again become a two party race Kirk but i wont be sad to see the demise of UKIP they really aren't a viable other option for me and i wont be sad to see them vanish.
But horses for courses it would be boring if we all agreed.
As for the emoticon i dont even know what its called i just think of it as the trumpet/the truth emoticon

[joeysteele]

If we see any more of the guy for UKIP that was on the Scottish debate last night, then UKIP would be lucky to hold either of the seats they currently have.

[Kizzy]

Yey I don't want Pudsey tory led get him out! ( he's the guy that was punched in the commons bar) that's how popular he is there, and less here.
Loving the realisation about UKIP and the support here for the Greens

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Only in the sense that the SNP's primary reason for existence (firstly independence, but in absence of that fighting for Scotland within the UK) would be nullified if independence was achieved... But it hasn't been.

Yet......

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Yet......

We can but dream! I actually think if independence did happen, within a couple of decades it would mainly be contested by a couple of brand new parties. One would most likely be the SNP under a different banner, though. But they would need a new battle cry...