[Livia]

Wow... that is so clever!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

<< Hasn't once claimed not to be part of any "divide".

My issue isn't with Livia being part of the problem, if it even is a problem (I can't say I've really found it to be much of one)... it's with her commenting on it as if she's some sort of impartial observer . Livia is so in the thick of it that she practically needs a monicker. I like "Tory-Girl" myself.

Joey can be "Miliboy" (which is frankly inspired), and I've been trying to make a case in my head for "Kizziband" but I'm not sure...

I personally like "Braveheart" or "The Scottish Swordsman" for myself. A warrior with penis magnificent in both length and girth.

Kirk... I dunno. Red Skull?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The question that no one else will dare ask, and that probably doesn't require an answer:

Have you made a hole where her mouth is yet?

[Livia]

I take every election as a separate thing. I haven't always voted Tory even when I was working for them, and I probably won't always in the future. For the record.

[Denver]

Am I the only UKIP supporter here?

[Tom4784]

Like Jack said, how many of those jobs are actually legitimate? Zero Hour Contracts are a cancer that shouldn't be endorsed and the Tories are using them to pad their stats and make themselves look good. Nevermind the fact that Scam 'Self employed' commision based sales posisitions have thrived under Cameron's rule.

David Cameron is incapable of answering a question directly so I'm not gonna take anything his government puts out as Gospel.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I doubt that those people are considered to be 'employed' though

They are though as are the ones on zero hour contracts, same goes for the people that are sent on many pointless courses that wont ever get them a job. This is how the figures are manipulated.

Also stated on the radio earlier that the figures show unemployment in England is down but it's still rising in Scotland.

[arista]

Dezzy your 2 have gone

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The question that no one else will dare ask, and that probably doesn't require an answer:

Have you made a hole where her mouth is yet?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Am I the only UKIP supporter here?

No Marsh is hard UKIP and Nedusa, Kirk and MB

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I take every election as a separate thing. I haven't always voted Tory even when I was working for them, and I probably won't always in the future. For the record.

Side-switching is perfectly legit Tibberhero canon, for now you are Tory-girl. It's really best to just accept it. Great responsibility, etc.

[Livia]

If you want to define me so narrowly, I suppose I can live with that.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

<< Hasn't once claimed not to be part of any "divide".

My issue isn't with Livia being part of the problem, if it even is a problem (I can't say I've really found it to be much of one)... it's with her commenting on it as if she's some sort of impartial observer . Livia is so in the thick of it that she practically needs a monicker. I like "Tory-Girl" myself.

Joey can be "Miliboy" (which is frankly inspired), and I've been trying to make a case in my head for "Kizziband" but I'm not sure...

I personally like "Braveheart" or "The Scottish Swordsman" for myself. A warrior with penis magnificent in both length and girth.

Kirk... I dunno. Red Skull?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Side-switching is perfectly legit Tibberhero canon, for now you are Tory-girl. It's really best to just accept it. Great responsibility, etc.

...hmmm, ok I'm only going to make one post because really this section in general is just awful imo and this post will probably be deleted anyway...

..TS, I enjoy reading your posts, whether I agree with all of your opinion on various topics or not...but you're not the only person with 'observations'..I have seen several times where you have analysed, pigeon-holed and judged people/members...and that's a natural thing I guess/to have opinions about people, isn't it.. but you post your opinions on the forum about those people as if you have a right to do so..as if you know them and know who they are and you don't have that right..you don't have the right to assume that you have perfectly 'analysed' people...also on at least one occasion I myself have seen you and other posters ridicule a member when they weren't even posting in the thread at that time..so yeah, carry on with your judgement and analysing but it really imo isn't being either helpful or constructive in anything on the forum....

[JoshBB]

I'd like to see the figure without zero-hours contracts included.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No Marsh is hard UKIP and Nedusa, Kirk and MB

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...hmmm, ok I'm only going to make one post because really this section in general is just awful imo and this post will probably be deleted anyway...

..TS, I enjoy reading your posts, whether I agree with all of your opinion on various topics or not...but you're not the only person with 'observations'..I have seen several times where you have analysed, pigeon-holed and judged people/members...and that's a natural thing I guess/to have opinions about people, isn't it.. but you post your opinions on the forum about those people as if you have a right to do so..as if you know them and know who they are and you don't have that right..you don't have the right to assume that you have perfectly 'analysed' people...also on at least one occasion I myself have seen you and other posters ridicule a member when they weren't even posting in the thread at that time..so yeah, carry on with your judgement and analysing but it really imo isn't being either helpful or constructive in anything on the forum....

I don't think I've ever perfectly analyzed anyone, though I'll admit unashamedly to constantly analyzing and re-analyzing based on what's going on at the time. I don't really know where "rights" or lack thereof come into it, really... people either get offended or they don't. I don't really put much stock in "getting offended", unless things start going to serious extremes, so it's not something I tend to consider when posting.

For example; I disagree with a lot of Livia's political stances. I find some of LT's and most of Kirk's totally mind-boggling. I don't shy away from saying so but - believe it or not (and it may be hard, based on the last couple of weeks) I actually personally like all of them, they are intelligent and interesting people. I just don't care if they like me back .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think I've ever perfectly analyzed anyone, though I'll admit unashamedly to constantly analyzing and re-analyzing based on what's going on at the time. I don't really know where "rights" or lack thereof come into it, really... people either get offended or they don't. I don't really put much stock in "getting offended", unless things start going to serious extremes, so it's not something I tend to consider when posting.

For example; I disagree with a lot of Livia's political stances. I find some of LT's and most of Kirk's totally mind-boggling. I don't shy away from saying so but - believe it or not (and it may be hard, based on the last couple of weeks) I actually personally like all of them, they are intelligent and interesting people. I just don't care if they like me back .

You are right

I have noticed Livia becoming more right wing since her boys got the big nod from the voting public, now that she hasnt got the libdems on her back she could become extreme

mtvn on the other hand has gone more green

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It's very clever

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I'd like to see the figure without zero-hours contracts included.

No

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

No

Reaffirming my suspicions that a lot of these new jobs are zero-hours (and don't count as full-time employment).

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Reaffirming my suspicions that a lot of these new jobs are zero-hours (and don't count as full-time employment).

Sure


Its the Future

Legit Zero Hours Contracts

[Kazanne]

STOP giving us positive news,no one is interested,people want something to whinge at.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure


Its the Future

Legit Zero Hours Contracts

Many people like the flexibility and if it suits the company..

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You are right

I have noticed Livia becoming more right wing since her boys got the big nod from the voting public, now that she hasnt got the libdems on her back she could become extreme

mtvn on the other hand has gone more green

Don't be bloody ridiculous

[billy123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Many people like the flexibility and if it suits the company..

Prove it. Dont just keep saying it. Find some sources for this idiotic claim from the tory party. Where are all these imaginary People that apparently love these 0 hour contract Jobs. Why would anybody love not having employment rights or job security.