[*mazedsalv**]

So, a poster called Oathy (pretty sure he used to be a member here too, not sure if he is anymore), he has been one of the most hardcore Live Feed campaigners in the last 6 years. He has had contact with Ben Frow, a Channel 5 producer and according to Ben, he is "not happy" by the state of the show and the current ratings. According to Oathy, Ben was in talks with Ch5 for live feed, and I think some wanted it, and some didn't (not sure whether it was Ch5, Viacom or Endemol who wanted/didn't want it). They were in talks in January about it and it was about to be agreed, but they the dropped it.

Well, anyway, Oathy states that Ben Frow was very honest in his reply and said he is not happy and is having meetings with people to see what can be done. Ben personally wants the feed back, but some other people don't. Oathy is saying that judging by his email from him, we should expect a few drastic things to happen... things that may happen:

- A mass eviction like BB11 which would be linked to the Timebomb theme
- Getting a lot more new HMs to throw in after the mass eviction
- Re-introducing ex HMs (unsure if this would be for tasks)

And last but not least, more discussions regarding Live Feed.

[Vanessa]

A mass eviction will leave the show with only the dullards left.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

A mass eviction will leave the show with only the dullards left.

Agree, a mass eviction should be a VTS vote.

[Niamh.]

Yeah hate all those ideas, they're the kind of thing that would make me switch off tbh

[Jake.]

Well I'm glad that at least LF is being discussed

[Vanessa]

We will be left with another BB4. If this happens i will stop watching.

[arista]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

So, a poster called Oathy (pretty sure he used to be a member here too, not sure if he is anymore), he has been one of the most hardcore Live Feed campaigners in the last 6 years. He has had contact with Ben Frow, a Channel 5 producer and according to Ben, he is "not happy" by the state of the show and the current ratings. According to Oathy, Ben was in talks with Ch5 for live feed, and I think some wanted it, and some didn't (not sure whether it was Ch5, Viacom or Endemol who wanted/didn't want it). They were in talks in January about it and it was about to be agreed, but they the dropped it.

Well, anyway, Oathy states that Ben Frow was very honest in his reply and said he is not happy and is having meetings with people to see what can be done. Ben personally wants the feed back, but some other people don't. Oathy is saying that judging by his email from him, we should expect a few drastic things to happen... things that may happen:

- A mass eviction like BB11 which would be linked to the Timebomb theme
- Getting a lot more new HMs to throw in after the mass eviction
- Re-introducing ex HMs (unsure if this would be for tasks)

And last but not least, more discussions regarding Live Feed.

Yes I am Ready to Pay As You Go
my Master Card is ready

[Liam-]

We'd literally be left with a house full of Dannys, Joels, Keirans, Cristians and Chloes if they did a mass eviction in a VTE, not here for it

[Pete.]

Yaay Live Feed

But what they need to do and learn from BB15 is that less twists = better series and more viewers

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We'd literally be left with a house full of Dannys, Joels, Keirans, Cristians and Chloes if they did a mass eviction in a VTE, not here for it

You know what, the more I hear the more this sounds like a fantastic idea. Get me a direct line to Oathy, Salv!

[jackc1806]

Endemol don't want a feed though and they produce the show, I doubt it'll happen this year.

[*mazedsalv**]

I don't agree with the mass eviction if it's VTE like I said to Oathy. But I reckon Ch5 is literally throwing all the cards down, from the sounds of it, they want to get rid of half the HMs and throw in around 7 more in from what I got from Oathy's post.

Live Feed is more difficult than it sounds apparently too. As I said, some people want it (saying it's the whole point) and some people don't because they feel it's a waste of money if it's not going to increase ratings.

I think from what I gather is that Viacom and Ch5 WANT it, Endemol doesn't. Which confuses me because Endomol runs Live Feed for nearly every single country that has BB.

[Headie]

Just bring Live Feed back and Vote to Save... Literally that's all we need. No twists, gimmicks etc.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I don't agree with the mass eviction if it's VTE like I said to Oathy. But I reckon Ch5 is literally throwing all the cards down, from the sounds of it, they want to get rid of half the HMs and throw in around 7 more in from what I got from Oathy's post.

Live Feed is more difficult than it sounds apparently too. As I said, some people want it (saying it's the whole point) and some people don't because they feel it's a waste of money if it's not going to increase ratings.

I think from what I gather is that Viacom and Ch5 WANT it, Endemol doesn't. Which confuses me because Endomol runs Live Feed for nearly every single country that has BB.

Initial is a separate company though as far as I'm aware, running under the Endemol umbrella. I'd imagine they'd point to the success of CBB without a feed- however we know BB does better when there is a feed, BB14 is an indication of that perhaps.

[Pete.]

Imo this series was going well with the more social aspect of it being prevelant in the highlight shows, but they can easily kill the series with a ****e twist like a mass eviction

[*mazedsalv**]

Oathy just said to me...

Hi salv

I think we can expect some major events in the show. He really isn't happy
I have got back in touch with Samwell -Smith and sent him a copy of Ben Frows email.

So "major events", I don't know if that sounds good or downright terrible. Nick Samwell Smith is the Managing Director of Endemol and in 2011 was placed in charge of BB if people didn't know. http://www.endemoluk.com/who-we-are/initialuk/team_bios

So, seeing all these high people being contacted means that Ch5 is serious about doing something. Knowing Ch5 though, it's going to be shockingly bad.

[jackc1806]

I don't like the sound of half the housemates going- that's ridiculous. What it needed was promotion and a June launch, live feed nightly and that's it really.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I don't agree with the mass eviction if it's VTE like I said to Oathy. But I reckon Ch5 is literally throwing all the cards down, from the sounds of it, they want to get rid of half the HMs and throw in around 7 more in from what I got from Oathy's post.

Live Feed is more difficult than it sounds apparently too. As I said, some people want it (saying it's the whole point) and some people don't because they feel it's a waste of money if it's not going to increase ratings.

I think from what I gather is that Viacom and Ch5 WANT it, Endemol doesn't. Which confuses me because Endomol runs Live Feed for nearly every single country that has BB.

I guess the UK would have paid live feed and have some live feed rolling on 5* every night, I suppose the USA generates money from their paid live feed online

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Oathy just said to me...

Hi salv

I think we can expect some major events in the show. He really isn't happy
I have got back in touch with Samwell -Smith and sent him a copy of Ben Frows email.

So "major events", I don't know if that sounds good or downright terrible. Nick Samwell Smith is the Managing Director of Endemol and in 2011 was placed in charge of BB if people didn't know.

So, seeing all these high people being contacted means that Ch5 is serious about doing something. Knowing Ch5 though, it's going to be shockingly bad.

ratings > quality at the end of the day from a C5 perspective. From a fans point of view it sounds disastrous...

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Oathy just said to me...

Hi salv

I think we can expect some major events in the show. He really isn't happy
I have got back in touch with Samwell -Smith and sent him a copy of Ben Frows email.

So "major events", I don't know if that sounds good or downright terrible. Nick Samwell Smith is the Managing Director of Endemol and in 2011 was placed in charge of BB if people didn't know. http://www.endemoluk.com/who-we-are/initialuk/team_bios

So, seeing all these high people being contacted means that Ch5 is serious about doing something. Knowing Ch5 though, it's going to be shockingly bad.

If major events mean Armageddon again I'm done

[Vanessa]

It won't be a mass eviction, because then Jade would go. She would only stay in a vote to save.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

ratings > quality at the end of the day from a C5 perspective. From a fans point of view it sounds disastrous...

At this point however with civilian BB fans are the ratings, so if they piss enough of them off like with power trip the show will flop

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

At this point however with civilian BB fans are the ratings, so if they piss enough of them off like with power trip the show will flop

They've said before their strategy is interesting casual viewers to watch, a massive eviction or something would do that. They also know most BB fans won't switch off regardless, look how much people on here and DS have rightly complained but they are still watching every night...

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

They've said before their strategy is interesting casual viewers to watch, a massive eviction or something would do that. They also know most BB fans won't switch off regardless, look how much people on here and DS have rightly complained but they are still watching every night...

True

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

They've said before their strategy is interesting casual viewers to watch, a massive eviction or something would do that. They also know most BB fans won't switch off regardless, look how much people on here and DS have rightly complained but they are still watching every night...

If all the best characters are evicted they will lose even more viewers.