[user104658]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The truth,

Quoting a list of left-leaning newspapers is not at all what is meant by giving examples of 'the left-wing do exactly the same'. Not an example at all.

I think he's trying to claim that the media is not right wing controlled which, in the UK in 2015, is simply false. I really can't fathom what his list of victorian, ww2 and obscure cold war era publications is supposed to "prove". It's certainly not comparable to the modern daily mass tabloid media right wing blanket coverage we have now.

[Kizzy]

If he listened to the trews he'd know that

[the truth]

mass? the bbc is spectacularly socialist as is that entire list ive posted....the enemy of socialism is the crooks within it....the seemingly endless cover ups and bent councils

[Z]

This has completely digressed from the point that Russell Brand is responsible for sweatshop conditions all around the world since time began..

[Kizzy]

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Z

This has completely digressed from the point that Russell Brand is responsible for sweatshop conditions all around the world since time began..

sarcasm is still lowest form of wit....and yes brand is guilty here

[Kizzy]

Guilty of what exactly?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Z

This has completely digressed from the point that Russell Brand is responsible for sweatshop conditions all around the world since time began..

[Kizzy]

It's shocking isn't it? if he was a totally unnethical big corporation making squillions for shareholders off the broken backs of the developing world everyone would think it was ace :/

[empire]

this is the reason why I am anti globalisation, brand is a con man, who is out there to make money and exploit from the poor, he is no different from the rich toffs who sit on there fat butt's in westminster, brand dreams of new world order in that you work longer for less money,

[the truth]

THE IRONY IS these new labour droogs are slavishly following the European union new world order which simply re establishes and simplifies global corporate control FORVER

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

THE IRONY IS these new labour droogs are slavishly following the European union new world order which simply re establishes and simplifies global corporate control FORVER

Ridiculously naive that you think it's only New Labour and not every single major political force in the western world . The Tories are in this **** up to their eyeballs too?

[Kizzy]

If global corporate control gets your goat you should love russ... he's not a fan either

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ridiculously naive that you think it's only New Labour and not every single major political force in the western world . The Tories are in this **** up to their eyeballs too?

youre the naïve one....at least they are giving us a referendum....new labour signed the disgusting unreadable 587 page constitution that will imprison us for a generation in red tape burocracy waste and enslave us to the EU. New labour also gifted back our multi million rebate in return for NOTHING...bliar would do anything for more power. now we see all time record high unemployment rates for the masses....the people brand pretends to represent? yet the EU impoverishes 100s of millions, blocks the Africans from trading, destroys small to medium businesses and simply institutionalises the massive corporate takeovers....with so much red tape only the big boys can surive....sadly you just don't get it

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If global corporate control gets your goat you should love russ... he's not a fan either

yet he supports the EU who bankrupt nations enslave the masses and institutionalise the global corporate takeoever? what a deluded fool he is....and how foolish are the fools that follow the fool?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre the naïve one....at least they are giving us a referendum....new labour signed the disgusting unreadable 587 page constitution that will imprison us for a generation in red tape burocracy waste and enslave us to the EU. New labour also gifted back our multi million rebate in return for NOTHING...bliar would do anything for more power. now we see all time record high unemployment rates for the masses....the people brand pretends to represent? yet the EU impoverishes 100s of millions, blocks the Africans from trading, destroys small to medium businesses and simply institutionalises the massive corporate takeovers....with so much red tape only the big boys can surive....sadly you just don't get it

They are giving us a referendum that they will do everything in their power to influence towards the result of staying in. It's lip service, paid because they knew that a referendum would be on the cards at some point inevitably, and they want it over and done with. At the end of the day, The Tories do not want out of the EU any more than Labour does.

[James]

Re: the sweatshirts.

It shows how much of a consumerist and materialistic society we live in. People actually like paying £68 pounds for a cheap sweatshirt with a logo on it.

And celebrity culture is closely linked with consumerism and materialism. That's the irony of what Russell Brand is arguing against. He's arguing against the thing that he is a product of.

[Kizzy]

He is to a certain extent but I guess that's just the nature of giving to good causes in the modern age.
There was celebrity culture before him and there will be after, he didn't invent hero worship or merchandising a venture yet it's a tool he uses to see his community concepts progress.. if he were Branson some may call him a genius :/

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He is to a certain extent but I guess that's just the nature of giving to good causes in the modern age.
There was celebrity culture before him and there will be after, he didn't invent hero worship or merchandising a venture yet it's a tool he uses to see his community concepts progress.. if he were Branson some may call him a genius :/

branson is a genius , hes created 100s of thousands of jobs in multiple sectors....heck hes flying people to space....he also doesn't preach to people the way brand does, yet what is brand? a crack head who wants everyone to take drugs without legal restraint, a multiple cheat who cheats on his many girlfriends, a man who wants us enslaved to Europe and its endless laws that destroy and impoverish poor people and blocks africans from trading and a man who exploits this disgusting cheap labour market

[empire]

brands knows where his t-shirts are made from, he has a price of £60, put on t-shirts that are worth only £5, he is in bed with the big corporation people, his house is in a tax haven area, he loses his temper when being told the truth, when he was on question time, he acted like a prat, saying this needs more money, that needs more money, but he seemed to have no clue, to the fact that, where will this money will come from.

[T*]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

When Lauren Harries said he shagged him was more interesting than this. Merchandise made in Asia shocker.

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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

branson is a genius , hes created 100s of thousands of jobs in multiple sectors....heck hes flying people to space....he also doesn't preach to people the way brand does, yet what is brand? a crack head who wants everyone to take drugs without legal restraint, a multiple cheat who cheats on his many girlfriends, a man who wants us enslaved to Europe and its endless laws that destroy and impoverish poor people and blocks africans from trading and a man who exploits this disgusting cheap labour market

Wrong Branson preaches to me often, I am bombarded with mail and adverts for virgin media.
Russel as far as I'm aware is not a crack addict.
He has no say over when, where or with whom we trade, that would be a decision made in a political arena.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by empire

brands knows where his t-shirts are made from, he has a price of £60, put on t-shirts that are worth only £5, he is in bed with the big corporation people, his house is in a tax haven area, he loses his temper when being told the truth, when he was on question time, he acted like a prat, saying this needs more money, that needs more money, but he seemed to have no clue, to the fact that, where will this money will come from.

hes a dangerous hypocritical fake

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wrong Branson preaches to me often, I am bombarded with mail and adverts for virgin media.
Russel as far as I'm aware is not a crack addict.
He has no say over when, where or with whom we trade, that would be a decision made in a political arena.

That's not preaching its advertising, youre so so naïve bless

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

That's not preaching its advertising, youre so so naïve bless

I'm naive? you're the one who thinks Branson 'flying people into space' is a good idea, how is that going for him?...

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...-project-doubt