[Mick]

I think she still has a pretty face when she smiles but we do not often see this.The bottom I just don't appreciate as she appears to waddle rather than walk and she paid for it.!

As for the way she interacts with the other HMs I am still undecided if this is a planned game play act or the real Jenna I would hope the former.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by lostalex

She is truly beautiful inside and out. It's so nice seeing a strong women who doesn't let herself be subjugated by men. even though many people see her as being subjugated because she had sex with men, the truth is she made a multimillion dollar business out of it, and actually she was subjugating Men and taking their money to make her a very rich business woman!

She is very inspiring the way she turned the whole business around. She turned a business where men were using women to get rich, into a business where women use men to get rich.

She's So awesome and intelligent!

So what you are saying is that we should now put prostitutes on a pedestal. No thanks, ive got morals and still see prostitutes and sex workers as people that corrupt society, not enhance it.

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I take it you liked Helen and Katie Hopkins then,who imo are angels compared to Jenna,just who says "Shall we make her cry" "Shall we say something about her kid" " Go and have another baby with another man" !!! totally unnecessary,nasty and cruel to Natasha,so I agree with Josy.

I tried to give Helen many chances but never liked her. I really struggled to find empathy in her. I find it hilarious you would refer to Helen as an angel in comparison. I think the opposite.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by iRyan

I think most of it stems from hurt and defense. I don't think she's nasty just to be nasty. Like with Natasha for example, you could tell by their conversation that she actually really liked her and thought they had bonded. When Natasha then nominated her, it actually hurt her. Jenna is the type of person who for most of her life has had to be weary of those around her, and when she meets someone she starts to like and trust and then they do or say something that contradicts what Jenna thought of as the reality of their relationship - that's when the defensive anger comes in as a result of being hurt.

I just don't think she's consciously a nasty or bad person at all. She's shown a lot of wonderful sides too that we've only gotten to really see snippets of because her aggressive/bitchy side is what producers find more entertaining about her.

You are now doing the exact same thing you accused me of though and speaking as if you know her, you don't.

I come to my opinions from watching the show and basing it on their actions in there and with Jenna it has brought me to the opinion that I posted and I stand by that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by iRyan

I tried to give Helen many chances but never liked her. I really struggled to find empathy in her. I find it hilarious you would refer to Helen as an angel in comparison. I think the opposite.

I struggle to find empathy for Jenna or Farrah,not once have they been nice to anyone, so for me Helen was a better person as she did at least admit her faults and showed a vunerable side,put it like this,I would rather spend time with Helen than those two freaks.Just a matter of taste I guess,but you did say ,they are people at the end of the day and shouldn't be judged

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So what you are saying is that we should now put prostitutes on a pedestal. No thanks, ive got morals and still see prostitutes and sex workers as people that corrupt society, not enhance it.

most prostitutes are desperate and being controlled by Male pimps, so no, nothing to do with prostitution.

Unfortunately most women in the sex business, are slaves that are making a profit for men who are controlling them.

That is wy Jenna is so brilliant, she turned the tables and found a way to make a business where she was in charge and she was making the profits by taking advantage of men.

Unfortunately usually in the sex business it's men using women and abusing women and treating women like slaves to make a profit. Men are pimps, or men are controlling the porn business, or men are controlling the strip club... it's almost always men using women to make their business successful.

She turned that all around and claimed all the power for herself, and instead made women the top of the food chain, and used men that were desperate to see her Perform and she got the profits and started a successful business, and even sold it for millions of dollars to playboy.

she turned it around and it was amazing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's your opinion but I rarely call housemates names or show hatred toward them so that shows how lowly I think of Jenna, (and to a point Farrah) but the things she says about others is awful and she goes for the kill every time by saying the most nasty hurtful things she can about them, she isn't as up front as she would have others believe either, she sits and drip feeds Farrah up with the nastiness then sits back and lets Farrah speak out and allows her to take the brunt of the blame for it.

And on top of all that she has absolutely no self awareness either, she's always going on about how awful Natasha is, when Natasha has never been vile to her.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And on top of all that she has absolutely no self awareness either, she's always going on about how awful Natasha is, when Natasha has never been vile to her.

Natasha is definitely vile. Natasha always has a nasty vile face on her whenever she disagree's with anyone. just because she doesn't say vile things doesn't mean that her body language doesn't speak louder than even farrah could shreek.

natasha is so damn arrogant and mean. she uses mostly body language, but the message is clear. don't act like you've never seen it.

[Mick]

Of course everyone is entitled to post there opinon but I cannot see how Vile fits Natasha.? Yes she has an angry facial expression don't we all when feeling that way but she has never sought confrontation only responded to it.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Mick

Of course everyone is entitled to post there opinon but I cannot see how Vile fits Natasha.? Yes she has an angry facial expression don't we all when feeling that way but she has never sought confrontation only responded to it.

she uses that nasty face in public but says nothing, but then she says the nasty rude things to people when she feels safe behind the persons back... to me that is vile. she is two faced. I have more respect for farrah at least saying what she feels in the moment exactly when she's feeling it. instead of hiding behind a nasty face and then saying it later to others.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So what you are saying is that we should now put prostitutes on a pedestal. No thanks, ive got morals and still see prostitutes and sex workers as people that corrupt society, not enhance it.

I feel this is well said and needed saying.It appeared to me that both Jenna and Farrah entered the house with a big chip on there shoulders which had nothing to do with any of the other HMs.Both choose to make money and gain there "celebrity status" via aspects of the sex industry and I wonder if this is the real cause.?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Mick

I feel this is well said and needed saying.It appeared to me that both Jenna and Farrah entered the house with a big chip on there shoulders which had nothing to do with any of the other HMs.Both choose to make money and gain there "celebrity status" via aspects of the sex industry and I wonder if this is the real cause.?

so what if they'd make their name in the sex business? why does that mean that mean they should be talked down to?

bobby and sherri made their names in the soap opera industry, which i feel required much less talent and skill than the sex business.

lol can you imagine any of those so-called british actors be proper hollywood actors> no they are cheap tv soap actors.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by lostalex

most prostitutes are desperate and being controlled by Male pimps, so no, nothing to do with prostitution.

Unfortunately most women in the sex business, are slaves that are making a profit for men who are controlling them.

That is wy Jenna is so brilliant, she turned the tables and found a way to make a business where she was in charge and she was making the profits by taking advantage of men.

Unfortunately usually in the sex business it's men using women and abusing women and treating women like slaves to make a profit. Men are pimps, or men are controlling the porn business, or men are controlling the strip club... it's almost always men using women to make their business successful.

She turned that all around and claimed all the power for herself, and instead made women the top of the food chain, and used men that were desperate to see her Perform and she got the profits and started a successful business, and even sold it for millions of dollars to playboy.

she turned it around and it was amazing.

Whatever you think of Jenna's behaviour, this is really well said and I think she deserves respect at least for her success, even if you do look down at the industry in which she achieved her success.

I'd never heard of her before CBB, and I don't particularly like her, but I can't help but be impressed at her background.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by lostalex

most prostitutes are desperate and being controlled by Male pimps, so no, nothing to do with prostitution.

Unfortunately most women in the sex business, are slaves that are making a profit for men who are controlling them.

That is wy Jenna is so brilliant, she turned the tables and found a way to make a business where she was in charge and she was making the profits by taking advantage of men.

Unfortunately usually in the sex business it's men using women and abusing women and treating women like slaves to make a profit. Men are pimps, or men are controlling the porn business, or men are controlling the strip club... it's almost always men using women to make their business successful.

She turned that all around and claimed all the power for herself, and instead made women the top of the food chain, and used men that were desperate to see her Perform and she got the profits and started a successful business, and even sold it for millions of dollars to playboy.

she turned it around and it was amazing.

So basically she became pimp.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by lostalex

most prostitutes are desperate and being controlled by Male pimps, so no, nothing to do with prostitution.

Unfortunately most women in the sex business, are slaves that are making a profit for men who are controlling them.

That is wy Jenna is so brilliant, she turned the tables and found a way to make a business where she was in charge and she was making the profits by taking advantage of men.

Unfortunately usually in the sex business it's men using women and abusing women and treating women like slaves to make a profit. Men are pimps, or men are controlling the porn business, or men are controlling the strip club... it's almost always men using women to make their business successful.

She turned that all around and claimed all the power for herself, and instead made women the top of the food chain, and used men that were desperate to see her Perform and she got the profits and started a successful business, and even sold it for millions of dollars to playboy.

she turned it around and it was amazing.

Nice to see your morals are pointed towards supporting prostitutes, a noble gesture. Whats next, lets support our local rapist, all because he may have been drunk or some other excuse. Jenna was abused by men who chose to use her and paid for that privilege, she sold her wares advised by her manager/agent, who was a man, so once again, men provided her with the vehicle to make millions.

Such hatred against men in support of women of ill repute isn't healthy. They say professional tramps and beggars make thousands as well, do you campaign for them as well. If you are going to campaign for anyone, please look at who they are on an individual basis, not by using a broad spectrum. You only need to watch Jenna for 20 mins to see the kind of animal or low life she is and her hatred of men seems to blow your theory out of the water, does it not.

Be patriotic if you must, but at least choose to champion someone that has some scruples. This bitch isn't worth your support, nor anyone elses for that mater, she is toxic, but pardon me for having an opinion that disagrees with yours, but I fear my retort makes more sense than yours.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by lostalex

she uses that nasty face in public but says nothing, but then she says the nasty rude things to people when she feels safe behind the persons back... to me that is vile. she is two faced. I have more respect for farrah at least saying what she feels in the moment exactly when she's feeling it. instead of hiding behind a nasty face and then saying it later to others.

People can often be very rude to your face and justify this by saying its honest behaviour.Those who save it but off load to others could be accused of back stabbing but I think more often its consideration and better manners but whatever I would not term if as Vile.

Should Natasha give in to what she is really thinking and decide to go toe to toe full on with Jenna it would be Jenna who went running to the DR complaining and whinging about the treatment because to me she is the classic all mouth and trousers HM hiding behind the BB rules.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mick

People can often be very rude to your face and justify this by saying its honest behaviour.Those who save it but off load to others could be accused of back stabbing but I think more often its consideration and better manners but whatever I would not term if as Vile.

Should Natasha give in to what she is really thinking and decide to go toe to toe full on with Jenna it would be Jenna who went running to the DR complaining and whinging about the treatment because to me she is the classic all mouth and trousers HM hiding behind the BB rules.

I agree. truth is Jenna and farrah aren't her friends, so really why does she have to say anything to their faces? imo you should only do that if it's a friend of yours who you want to sort things out with

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree. truth is Jenna and farrah aren't her friends, so really why does she have to say anything to their faces? imo you should only do that if it's a friend of yours who you want to sort things out with

because Jenna actually tried to resolve things with her, and Natasha pretended to resolve things with Jenna. but she didn't actually resolve things, she just pretended to and then continued hating on Jenna behind her back.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

because Jenna actually tried to resolve things with her, and Natasha pretended to resolve things with Jenna. but she didn't actually resolve things, she just pretended to and then continued hating on Jenna behind her back.

Yeah because they're stuck in a house together and she wants some peace I guess, if it were the real world, they just wouldn't be around eachother.

Anyway, I dislike Jenna personally but I think alot of the posts in here about her are out of order, regarding her working in the Porn industry

[Beso]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So basically she became pimp.

Anna friel, ben kingsley,martine mcutcheon,alan cummins and ant and dec of the top of my head.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by lostalex

because Jenna actually tried to resolve things with her, and Natasha pretended to resolve things with Jenna. but she didn't actually resolve things, she just pretended to and then continued hating on Jenna behind her back.

Please show me a clip where Natasha starts on either Jenna or Farrah. All Natashas venomous retorts have been in defence of bile aimed at her. the words hole, shovel and stop digging spring to mind with your retorts.

[Beso]

Bum

[bots]

I'm not fussed what the American girls have done in their careers. The point is that they are both thoroughly unpleasant people. I take issue with channel 5 because I don't think loading a house full of people who are socially repugnant series after series is entertaining in the least.

For me, I want to hear the anecdotes of celebs as they have gone through their careers. That's what is interesting to me, and it was how the celeb series started out many moons ago. All that has been lost in favour of the grotesque caricature that BB has now become.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I'm not fussed what the American girls have done in their careers. The point is that they are both thoroughly unpleasant people. I take issue with channel 5 because I don't think loading a house full of people who are socially repugnant series after series is entertaining in the least.

For me, I want to hear the anecdotes of celebs as they have gone through their careers. That's what is interesting to me, and it was how the celeb series started out many moons ago. All that has been lost in favour of the grotesque caricature that BB has now become.

well there are no celebs on CBB, so get over it. the idea that you'd rather hear Sherri talk about her soap career more than watch Farrah go on an irate rant... well it's just silly.

If you want to hear more About sherri's career check out her wiki page...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So what you are saying is that we should now put prostitutes on a pedestal. No thanks, ive got morals and still see prostitutes and sex workers as people that corrupt society, not enhance it.

ehat a load of ****. you watch porn every single day. to pretend like you are on any higher level than the people that make it? go do one.

Jenna has been watched by far more men than Sherri on loose women. and Loose Women is just as mindless a form of entertainment as PORN.