[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

well tbf it does say that their colour was mentioned. I understand it's not just a problem to do with their skin, it's because they're women too but say If I were in London off to a club and I heard the bouncer say that they only let particularly good looking Irish girls in, I think I'd be more offended by the fact that I was being discriminated against because of my nationality than on how good looking I was. Obviously both things are offensive though

Anyone who stops any woman going anywhere because of the way she looks should expect to have his nipples twisted till he squeals. I'm making this law when I take over the country...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Anyone who stops any woman going anywhere because of the way she looks should expect to have his nipples twisted till he squeals. I'm making this law when I take over the country...

excellent

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

Anyone who stops any woman going anywhere because of the way she looks should expect to have his nipples twisted till he squeals. I'm making this law when I take over the country...

That sounds like fun!I might become a bouncer when this law comes in

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would stop all very fat people from travelling on planes for a kick off

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't doubt that. It's just that it's been going on for years! I remember my cousin weeping into my mother's lap because she couldn't get into a club in the West End. Was it because she was Jewish? No... it was because she was a female and apparently not 'hot' enough. I don't see this as an insult to black women, I see it as an insult to women in general, it's not any worse because they're black.

This goes beyond even gender. As I say, men face it too. You're more likely to get into a top club as a woman than you are as a man. It's just all kinds of ****ty.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

This goes beyond even gender. As I say, men face it too. You're more likely to get into a top club as a woman than you are as a man. It's just all kinds of ****ty.

Indeed. It's certainly something that needs looking at imo. You have all these cases of hotels being taken to court for refusing gay couples and bakeries etc etc (which is right imo) and I'm sure if they refused people because of their gender or colour it would be the same but Nightclubs seem to be untouchable in this regard. I wonder why that is?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

This goes beyond even gender. As I say, men face it too. You're more likely to get into a top club as a woman than you are as a man. It's just all kinds of ****ty.

I suppose... I didn't even look at it like that because of the topic of the story.

Why would anyone want to go to a place like that and spend their hard-earned cash?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Like I said... it's not the first time women have been turned away for how they look. Including white women.

Not disagreeing, but do they all have evidence in writing of discrimination to back up their claim, how this could not be a news story is more to the point..

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not disagreeing, but do they all have evidence in writing of discrimination to back up their claim, how this could not be a news story is more to the point..

For a story with back up, there are a lot of "she claimed" and "allegedly"s in there.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

For a story with back up, there are a lot of "she claimed" and "allegedly"s in there.

I might google and find it for you if I can be arsed, it was shown on the London news last night, I find it quite hilarious that you think I'm making it up

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I might google and find it for you if I can be arsed, it was shown on the London news last night, I find it quite hilarious that you think I'm making it up

No, I don't think you're making it up! I just haven't seen it for myself. I would be interested to see.

[arista]

From ITV1 London news




USA R&B star Omarion
was due to perform at the Club Tonight but pulled out
getting big thanks on his twitter

[arista]

The Owner is a Fool this has gone Global
Sack the Manager , change bad staff
Fast

Or Shut your Mutha Fecking Club Down


Feel The Force

[Dollface]

They're attractive girls (imo) and not fat, so wth, no-one should be turned away for the way they look, that is just ridiculous

[armand.kay]

I will never understand why the black community continue to have this mentality that the darker you are the uglier.

[armand.kay]

"if they're dark they need to be extra pretty" disgusting tbh.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well i've been knocked back from clubs for not being gay!I asked how they knew and they "could just tell".I used to like those clubs cos they opened late and the music was good.

The bars in the Village inManchester regularly turn straight people away, particularly on Friday and Saturday nights.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The bars in the Village inManchester regularly turn straight people away, particularly on Friday and Saturday nights.

It's ridiculous.
I'm calling 'reverse homophobia'
Imagine if bouncers turned away someone for being gay.There would be an uproar!

[Brother Leon]

Me and my mates have been turned away several times due to "security reasons" aka, you are a group of ethnic guys,sorry. Pretty ****ed up to be deemed fat and unable to go in though..

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, I don't think you're making it up! I just haven't seen it for myself. I would be interested to see.

I wouldn't worry about it Ammi.(EDIT! I mean LIV - God knows why I put Ammi? ) From my posts on Benefit Cheats to Radical Immigrants, I have been mocked and accused of being a liar, despite such posts being my own direct experience.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I wouldn't worry about it Ammi. From my posts on Benefit Cheats to Radical Immigrants, I have been mocked and accused of being a liar, despite such posts being my own direct experience.

Have you been on the sauce Kirk?

[lostalex]

If it were 4 white women that were just as ugly and fat and wearing the same clothes i think they would have been turned away too.

I don't think this racist.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

How many clubs have done this? It doesn't sound common, I've heard stories of gay people bringing their friends to these clubs with no problem

Very common depending on where you are. I used to live in Manchester and I'd see it every weekend, people getting turned away from some bars on canal street for being straight. It really bothered me but a lot of the gay guys would say it was a good thing because straight people shouldn't be there. I even worked at one of the bars briefly and the manager would always say he hated it when straight people came in and would be really snarky when serving them.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LiamBB

Very common depending on where you are. I used to live in Manchester and I'd see it every weekend, people getting turned away from some bars on canal street for being straight. It really bothered me but a lot of the gay guys would say it was a good thing because straight people shouldn't be there. I even worked at one of the bars briefly and the manager would always say he hated it when straight people came in and would be really snarky when serving them.

I understand what you are saying...

the same is true of bars that have regulars and prefer older demographic. If a bunch of young people dressed sexy showed up in their bar, they would be looked at strangely and treated like crap too.

Bars and clubs tend to have a "culture" in them. and if someone upsets that or tries to change it then they react. Just like gentrification....

[jackc1806]

if they didn't get a ticket online the club doesn't have to let them in, obviously the alleged racism is pretty disgusting though.