[lostalex]

but according to trans people, babies don't even have a gender right? they say you don't know your gender until you are old enough to think for yourself and decide for yourself. they say we shouldn't presume anyone is any gender until they are old enough to tell you. right?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but according to trans people, babies don't even have a gender right? they say you don't know your gender until you are old enough to think for yourself and decide for yourself. they say we shouldn't presume anyone is any gender until they are old enough to tell you. right?

I think thats just generally tumblr.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but according to trans people, babies don't even have a gender right? they say you don't know your gender until you are old enough to think for yourself and decide for yourself. they say we shouldn't presume anyone is any gender until they are old enough to tell you. right?

What a load of ****e.

[JoshBB]

I think that while this is odd on surface, it is quite understandable. Often transgender people feel that they have missed out on their childhood and so possibly this is a psychological problem that she wants to act as a child so that she can get what she has missed out on. Hopefully someone can help her. I don't think it's fair that we laugh at someone like this.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Chewdolph

A lot of Trans people are confused about their feelings, and many of them probably bury how they truely feel, especially since its only very recently become a lot more accepted, and the reason it is more accepted is because you have these well known celebrities going public about it.

However, they should take into account that if they have children, it is possible those children will be bullied for it, so if they do have children, they perhaps shouldn't overpublicise it all. Also, I have no sympath for trans people who completely abandon their family, just because they're changing, it is no excuse for abandoning your family. Yes, some of the family will give them a hard time, but given time, issues will be sorted, if they throw in the towel and run off to start a new life, they will be hated.

It's very easy though for us to pass judgement on people when we haven't spent a day in their shoes, we don't know what it's truly like so I can't judge these people for their choices. It seems inherently wrong to abandon your family to me, but it may be justified depending on the situation.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think that while this is odd on surface, it is quite understandable. Often transgender people feel that they have missed out on their childhood and so possibly this is a psychological problem that she wants to act as a child so that she can get what she has missed out on. Hopefully someone can help her. I don't think it's fair that we laugh at someone like this.

But as a parent you learn not to be so self centred and selfish.

Once you get to that age and rack up so much life experience, you're supposed to have the maturity to grow up, get over it and realise there is much more to life than yourself.

People like this man need psychological help if ill, otherwise a kick up the arse.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

It's very easy though for us to pass judgement on people when we haven't spent a day in their shoes, we don't know what it's truly like so I can't judge these people for their choices. It seems inherently wrong to abandon your family to me, but it may be justified depending on the situation.

"Justified" I feel would be the wrong choice of term.

Understandable or explainable to some degree, but definitely not "just".

"Just" makes him another deadbeat dad. Putting himself before the people he brought into the world.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But as a parent you learn not to be so self centred and selfish.

Once you get to that age and rack up so much life experience, you're supposed to have the maturity to grow up, get over it and realise there is much more to life than yourself.

People like this man need psychological help if ill, otherwise a kick up the arse.

First of all, can we please use female pronouns.

Secondly, I agree it appears selfish on surface but again, I haven't ever been in the situation of a transgender person transitioning so I can't imagine what that must be like. We can try our best to sympathise but will likely not truly understand, and for that reason I'm not going to pass judgement on them.

But yeah the acting like a 6-year-old child thing is something she should probably see a psychologist about, because that's not something that could be considered mentally healthy.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

First of all, can we please use female pronouns.

Don't even try to get PC with me.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Don't even try to get PC with me.

It's not PC to use someone's correct pronouns, it's rude and transphobic. If you'd like me to start referring to you as "she" to demonstrate my point I will.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

It's not PC to use someone's correct pronouns, it's rude and transphobic. If you'd like me to start referring to you as "she" to demonstrate my point I will.

Yes, it is PC.

This is a 46 year old man, father of seven children dressing up as a six year old girl. Ffs, get some perspective.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, it is PC.

This is a 46 year old man, father of seven children dressing up as a six year old girl. Ffs, get some perspective.

She was transgender before the 'six year old girl' concept popped up, that is something that is completely unrelated. She is a 46 year old woman who needs to see a psychologist about wanting to live as a six year old, but apart from that..

Respect peoples' pronouns. Simple as.

[lostalex]

i'm a gay man, and i've known since i was around 5 our 6... and i've never been bullied for being gay. ever. i've never been called a ****** to my face, i've never been bullied for being gay, and i've never had to kick anyone's ass.

It wasn't hard.

Some people just want the drama though.

[Niamh.]

This part of article :

“To me, ‘stop being trans’ isn’t something I could do,” she says. “It would be like telling me to stop being 6ft 2 or leave.”

Yet "stop being 46" is perfectly doable?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

She was transgender before the 'six year old girl' concept popped up, that is something that is completely unrelated. She is a 46 year old woman who needs to see a psychologist about wanting to live as a six year old, but apart from that..

Respect peoples' pronouns. Simple as.

I don't share that view.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

This part of article :

“To me, ‘stop being trans’ isn’t something I could do,” she says. “It would be like telling me to stop being 6ft 2 or leave.”

Yet "stop being 46" is perfectly doable?

Exactly.

Those eye bags aren't fooling anyone mister.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

^^

What about the creepy couple who have 'adopted' him/her???

Is the father having sex with the trans 'girl'??

Is his wife?

What sort of threesome is it??

It gets more peculiar the more I think about it.

I saw this in the comment section

No one seems to be mentioning that Stefonknee is in a sexual relationship with her "adopted parents." She went into explicit detail about sex with her "adoptive father" in an interview with The Heart radio show, season one, episode nine. It's very disturbing but worth it to know exactly the kind of person we're dealing with here.

How embarrassing for his wife and kids

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by RichardG

I saw this in the comment section





How embarrassing for his wife and kids

Yet we need to respect this moronic pervert guys.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by RichardG

I saw this in the comment section





How embarrassing for his wife and kids

Just your normal 6 year old girl

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't share that view.

Using correct pronouns is not a 'view', it's just not being transphobic.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Using correct pronouns is not a 'view', it's just not being transphobic.

I was referring to the entire point of view you described about this person. Those are not the correct terms for this person.

I believe the words are "sick" and "perverted".

So take your PC attitude to a topic in actual need of it.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Using correct pronouns is not a 'view', it's just not being transphobic.

the definition of "correct" is still up for debate though... i have a trans cousin, and "he" just came out this year, and trust me, everyone who loves "him" to death are still struggling with it, and "he" would never claim that we are transphobic for struggling to get it right all of the time.

Imagine trying to remember to call a big mac a KFC chicken bucket everytime you talked about eating fried chicken. it messes with your brain trying to remember to call fried chicken a big mac. because your brain is so used to thinking about fried chicken, and how it looks and how it tastes, but now you have to call it a big mac, and it feels like if you say it's a big mac people will think you are actually talking about mcdonalds, but you aren't talking about a mcdonalds big mac, you are talking about a KFC big mac, but KFC doesn't sell big macs... so it just doesn't make any sense.

It seems so simple for people that don't know any trans people, or to people that have known trans people AFTER they transitioned... bout for people dealing with people going through the transition, it's really not as easy as you think.

it's like ordering a big mac at KFC. it just doesn't make sense and sounds wrong everytime you say it.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I was referring to the entire point of view you described about this person. Those are not the correct terms for this person.

I believe the words are "sick" and "perverted".

So take your PC attitude to a topic in actual need of it.

........ yeah I can see compassion is going nowhere here.

Originally Posted by lostalex

the definition of "correct" is still up for debate though... i have a trans cousin, and "he" just came out this year, and trust me, everyone who loves "him" to death are still struggling with it, and "he" would never claim that we are transphobic for struggling to get it right all of the time. imagine trying to remember to call a big mac a KFC chicken bucket everytime you talked about eating fried chicken. it masseuses with your brain trying to remember to call fried chicken a big mac.

Oh of course, it takes time to fully register. A person at my school came out as transgender and I kept using 'she' instead of 'he' on accident for the first week or so, but they said it was okay since I am at least making an effort. I think that's what matters here - purposefully using the wrong gender pronouns is quite nasty imo.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

........ yeah I can see compassion is going nowhere here.



Oh of course, it takes time to fully register. A person at my school came out as transgender and I kept using 'she' instead of 'he' on accident for the first week or so, but they said it was okay since I am at least making an effort. I think that's what matters here - purposefully using the wrong gender pronouns is quite nasty imo.

Yeah, a grown man leaves his family and kids to live out a sexual perverted fantasy as a six year old girl with "adopted parents" and the problem is I lack compassion for him, and what "matters here" is the pronouns used for perverted scum like this.

Ok.

[Jake.]

I wish mum and dad would stop arguing