[Vicky.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-intersex.html

What on earth is this rubbish? Since when has 'tomboy' been a gender? And how the hell can you identify as 'all of the genders'?!

Sorry, there is being progressive, then there is being downright stupid. This unfortunately falls into the latter category. A simple male/female and maybe an 'unknown' option would surely suffice?

[Niamh.]

Oh ffs

[Vicky.]

This is for 13 year olds too, who will already be confused as **** about life in general. having to then decide if you are a demi-boy or whatever...well we are pretty much just going to create as generation of confused young adults

[Niamh.]

Yeah big time ^

[Crimson Dynamo]

ridiculous nonsense

[bots]

After the long list, there is an Others, please state option

[Ninastar]

I think it's probably just being over exaggerated for views but this wouldn't surprise me if it were true.

[lostalex]

who cares, it doesn't really effect anyone that is a cis gender, so why do you care? i don't give a **** what gender other people identify as.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is for 13 year olds too, who will already be confused as **** about life in general. having to then decide if you are a demi-boy or whatever...well we are pretty much just going to create as generation of confused young adults

they are mostly confused because of ignorant adults that think this is still the 1950's.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

they are mostly confused because of ignorant adults that think this is still the 1950's.

Not really

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

they are mostly confused because of ignorant adults that think this is still the 1950's.

Yeah...of course, like always

Sorry but how on earth is 'tomboy' a gender? A tomboy is a female. So surely this would make gender female? Personality traits (such as playing with boys more than girls) does not change your gender?

I just cannot get my head round most of this nonsense.

If this makes me ignorant, I can live with that tbh.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah...of course, like always

Sorry but how on earth is 'tomboy' a gender? A tomboy is a female. So surely this would make gender female? Personality traits (such as playing with boys more than girls) does not change your gender?

I just cannot get my head round most of this nonsense.

If this makes me ignorant, I can live with that tbh.

sex and gender are not the same thing. sex is the physical bits, gender is an identity in your mind.

you are thinking purely in terms of sex.

[Cal.]

There should me male, female and unknown/other. There's no reason to have all these stupid categories.

[Cherie]

What annoys me about this is the waste of money when we are in a period of austerity, if they want this information they should make it part of the census, though what business it is what people identify as is anyone's guess, there should also be a "don't want to say option"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

sex and gender are not the same thing. sex is the physical bits, gender is an identity in your mind.

you are thinking purely in terms of sex.

Even so, what need is there for 25 different genders? For what purpose would you need to call yourself a Tomboy rather than a girl?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What annoys me about this is the waste of money when we are in a period of austerity, if they want this information they should make it part of the census, though what business it is what people identify as is anyone's guess, there should also be a "don't want to say option"

really? you are worried about the cost of extra ink? i think there are plenty of other wasteful programs in the government to worry about.

[Crimson Dynamo]

what is the reason for asking a 13 year old about this?

if they want to know ask their parents

[Kizzy]

Won't this have a bad effect on those girls who do identify as tomboys and the equivalent label for boys, wow anything that is even slightly out of the norm is identified for future reference from a very early age. Welcome to conditioning.

Spoiler:

Youtube video

(check the year :/)

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lostalex

really? you are worried about the cost of extra ink? i think there are plenty of other wasteful programs in the government to worry about.

Do you think the information is going to collate itself

[arista]

Yes Jack Monroe is a one off

she was on Ch4HD news the other week saying she was Raped
as a boy and as a girl.

Not so typical complex

[Jords]

Its an extremely holistic approach to gender but really unnecessary. Most of these terms kinda just describe a person's 'opinion' on gender i.e. your 'concrete gender' is not "gender fluid" but you can believe that gender is fluid - if that makes sense? - and would categorise you probably under "bi-gender" if you believed your own gender is fluid.

In my opinion: male, female and bi-gender male (male who is sometimes female)/bi-gender female (female who is sometimes male) cover gender categories. If you are trans - you would consider yourself as newly male or newly female whichever the case - I see "transgender" as more of a process.

Just as with sexuality: straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual. All the other fancy terms (e.g. asexual, demisexual, pansexual) just describe 'opinions/feelings' of sexuality... If youre "asexual" you dont experience sexual desire, but if youre only romantically interested in/drawn to the opposite sex then you are still straight. "Demisexuals" are bisexual people that focus on an emotional bond, if they tell me 'need an emotional bond but only interested in the same sex' then they are gay. "Pansexuals" are bisexual people that have no preference between males, females, bi-gender males and bi-gender females, in my opinion.

I LOVE THESE TOPICS.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Do you think the information is going to collate itself

I think the suicide rate among trans youth is enough of a reason to put some extra funding into it. I think it might save a few lives which makes it worth it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think the suicide rate among trans youth is enough of a reason to put some extra funding into it. I think it might save a few lives which makes it worth it.

And you know funding is going to be directed in this area how?

[user104658]

I'm interfemale.

Cuz I'm really inter females.

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OK anyway I think it's important to let young people know about transgender / fluid gender issues so they don't feel like they have to conform to male / female stereotypes but, come on, seriously, there are far too many options here and half of them as far as I can tell mean the same things...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Cherie

And you know funding is going to be directed in this area how?

umm, you were the one complaining about the money, so i should be asking you that question. you are the one saying they are wasting money on it.