[MrWong]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ume-photo.html

Ryan and Andrew to become great mates?

[Niamh.]

Oh Dear, I have a feeling Ryan is going to be one of the most hated HMs ever. He is so bloody annoying on top of it. I hate people who just talk over everyone constantly, it's a pet peeve of mine

[*mazedsalv**]

I don't like Ryan, but I think there's not anything "racist" really in that. This comment on Daily Mail rings true...

I'll be honest, I don't get it! Yesterday, I saw a video on facebook of 2 African Americans who had dressed up as the Wayan Brothers in White Chicks. They had painted themselves white, yet everyone found it hilarious and didn't make a single comment about it being racist. I just don't understand!!!

[*mazedsalv**]

Plus he was dressed up as "Looky Looky man", as he is carrying sunglasses. These guys come up to you in Magaluf, Ibiza and Kavos and try and sell you big yellow sunglasses.

[Livia]

Ryan already has my vote for worst housemate of the series... however...


Eddie Murphy made up to look like a white man. And not just a white man, a Jewish white man:

Spoiler:

Am I insulted? No, not at all.

[andybigbro]

Yeah I don't see how it's racist?

White chicks is the same thing really?

Don't get me wrong I don't like him.

[Shaun]

I've never really minded the whole concept of "dressing up as someone" so long as the intention were clear. For example, 'blacking up' to go as, say, Stevie Wonder for a fancy dress party is a lot less worrying / offensive than randomly doing it - and I can't say I get the reference Ryan is going for in his picture. Unless someone can explain the inspiration for it it does come across as little more than shock tactics or ignorance.

[Oliver_W]

I don't like Ryan, but I don't really care about blackface. If anything, SJWs whinging about it makes it worthwhile :E

Originally Posted by Shaun

I've never really minded the whole concept of "dressing up as someone" so long as the intention were clear. For example, 'blacking up' to go as, say, Stevie Wonder for a fancy dress party is a lot less worrying / offensive than randomly doing it - and I can't say I get the reference Ryan is going for in his picture. Unless someone can explain the inspiration for it it does come across as little more than shock tactics or ignorance.

As with your Stevie Wonder exmple, Ryan was dressing as a specific person - someone he met on holiday.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I don't like Ryan, but I think there's not anything "racist" really in that. This comment on Daily Mail rings true...

I'll be honest, I don't get it! Yesterday, I saw a video on facebook of 2 African Americans who had dressed up as the Wayan Brothers in White Chicks. They had painted themselves white, yet everyone found it hilarious and didn't make a single comment about it being racist. I just don't understand!!!

Totally agree, I dont see anything racist in it either .PC gone mad and double standards

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Yeah I don't see how it's racist?

White chicks is the same thing really?

Don't get me wrong I don't like him.

Exactly, White Chicks humor is about 2 black men dressing and trying to act like 2 white teens.

Reverse that, not only would the film not be popular, the producers and the cast would be lynched.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Exactly, White Chicks humor is about 2 black men dressing and trying to act like 2 white teens.

Reverse that, not only would the film not be popular, the producers and the cast would be lynched.

Don't go talking sense now

[Headie]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Yeah I don't see how it's racist?

White chicks is the same thing really?

Don't get me wrong I don't like him.

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Exactly, White Chicks humor is about 2 black men dressing and trying to act like 2 white teens.

Reverse that, not only would the film not be popular, the producers and the cast would be lynched.

Do you know where "blackface" originated from and how it was used in the past, hence why it's offensive?

I'd love some evidence of "whiteface" being used to oppress an entire race back in the day.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Do you know where "blackface" originated from and how it was used in the past, hence why it's offensive?

I'd love some evidence of "whiteface" being used to oppress an entire race back in the day.

Jews have been pretty oppressed over the years. Eddie Murphy still whited up and played a Jew. And I'm still not offended. Because it was a joke... a harmless joke not meant to offend anyone.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Do you know where "blackface" originated from and how it was used in the past, hence why it's offensive?

I'd love some evidence of "whiteface" being used to oppress an entire race back in the day.

Only offensive to some ,do you think white facing is offensive too ?

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Jews have been pretty oppressed over the years. Eddie Murphy still whited up and played a Jew. And I'm still not offended. Because it was a joke... a harmless joke not meant to offend anyone.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Only offensive to some ,do you think white facing is offensive too ?

I think it's a tricky one because everyone has different barriers of what they find offensive.

For example if one of my friends dressed up as me and but some brown paint on their body I'd be offended - it's like people only see you for a colour or a mock image and nothing else.

As for the whiteface, I can't say I do as I'm not white so I've never really thought about it, and don't really get offended on other peoples behalf. I guess you could say the same for the Jewish one, although I have no idea what that's about as I haven't heard of that until now.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I think it's a tricky one because everyone has different barriers of what they find offensive.

For example if one of my friends dressed up as me and but some brown paint on their body I'd be offended - it's like people only see you for a colour or a mock image and nothing else.

As for the whiteface, I can't say I do as I'm not white so I've never really thought about it, and don't really get offended on other peoples behalf. I guess you could say the same for the Jewish one, although I have no idea what that's about as I haven't heard of that until now.

Same here

[Crimson Dynamo]

not offensive at all, his intention was not to belittle

and yes, i am minding my privilege

[Headie]

Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place

[drantb]

I think he's too thick to have any realisation WHY people might find that offensive.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place

Never going to happen flowerpot, too many bigots out there ,black and white

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by drantb

I think he's too thick to have any realisation WHY people might find that offensive.

I think the people who find it offensive are the thick ones

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place

No I don't think that at all Hayden, it's just some of the examples of racist behaviour are so ridiculous, it's a way of showing how ridiculous they are

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place

True, but then there are also certain people [again, not directed on here] who also jump on the racism bandwagon at any chance they can.

[armand.kay]

Meah with show like come fly with me and little Britain does the uk actually care that much about black face? Is it even a big deal here?

Saying that though that costume is a tad bit messy.