[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Mokka

My favourite part of last night...was watching the left wing media back track...and start trying to spin Trump as a not so bad guy... but really just saying things like....sure he said insert the list of neg quotes about women and Hispanics ... but his speech was nice?? ... and then basically saying...boy did we get it wrong... we didn't anticipate the power of the white rural voter

The common consensus was that there were not enough deplorables for Trump to win. They got that totally wrong.

Fascinating result but what now for HRC. The American people are clearly telling her something with another rejection. Will she try again in 2020 where Kanye will probably beat her too. Time for her to pack it in for good IMO. Her presence on the ballot does very little that is positive imo particularly when she rallies all her friends to help her. Talking of which, I'd like to know waht the likes of Donna Brezile and Debbie Wasserman Shultz are now thinking after they tried their damndest to get their friend elected and she still couldnt win. Most polls had Bernie sanders beating Trump easily.

[arista]

Girth
You and I knew
he could Win


BLAME CLINTONS

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I also don't get this absolute loyalty the average joe has to a political party

Actually, i wouldn't say that is what happened yesterday. Main stream rich rebublicans flocked from trump for weeks... what you don't understand is the high amount of uneducated masses who actually have the same philosophies as trump in rural america....and what everyone got wrong was how that had seeped into the norther states, like Michigan, that lost it for Hilary in the end. Michael Moore called it in the end....

And when I say uneducated masses, i am not trying to insult...those were the statistics i was hearing yesterday about exit polls.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The common consensus was that there were not enough deplorables for Trump to win. They got that totally wrong.

Fascinating result but what now for HRC. The American people are clearly telling her something with another rejection. Will she try again in 2020 where Kanye will probably beat her too. Time for her to pack it in for good IMO. Her presence on the ballot does very little that is positive imo particularly when she rallies all her friends to help her. Talking of which, I'd like to know waht the likes of Donna Brezile and Debbie Wasserman Shultz are now thinking after they tried their damndest to get their friend elected and she still couldnt win. Most polls had Bernie sanders beating Trump easily.

No...she is done now.... barring any recount turn around. She won't appear on any ballot again

[Vicky.]

This didn't shock me at all. Had we not had the brexit result a few months back, I would have been floored by this. But I was expecting it. The world appears to be taking a much less tolerant view on everything recently. I cannot see this as a good thing but am open to my mind being changed. Congratulations to Trump I guess.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This didn't shock me at all. Had we not had the brexit result a few months back, I would have been floored by this. But I was expecting it. The world appears to be taking a much less tolerant view on everything recently. I cannot see this as a good thing but am open to my mind being changed. Congratulations to Trump I guess.

agree with that, big time

[arista]

"cannot see this as a good
thing but am open to
my mind being changed.
Congratulations to Trump I guess."


You Are Most Wise Vicky

[arista]

Trump is Half Scottish


Ref : SNP MP on Ch5HD AM Live show
today


I record it

[Tom4784]

The American public are making the same mistakes as Germany did in the 1930's. It's honestly soul destroying how wilfully ignorant people can be.

'Let's not elect someone who has troubles with her email but an alleged child rapist is A-okay!'

JFC. America is cancelled, it deserves what it's going to get with a Trump Administration.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The American public are making the same mistakes as Germany did in the 1930's. It's honestly soul destroying how wilfully ignorant people can be.

'Let's not elect someone who has troubles with her email but an alleged child rapist is A-okay!'

JFC. America is cancelled, it deserves what it's going to get with a Trump Administration.

NO Dezzy
its Pure Democracy

I hope I am in you Next Terror TIBB story
as that can have the Fantastic 1930's
Black Man beat Hitlers Runners
he turned his back at the Olympics
before WW2

Great Black Runner

[Crimson Dynamo]

Calling millions of Americans 'willfully ignorant' is frankly disgusting

Smh

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Calling millions of Americans 'willfully ignorant' is frankly disgusting

Smh

Yes
sorry to post again

Spoiler:

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

NO Dezzy
its Pure Democracy

I hope I am in you Next Terror TIBB story
as that can have the Fantastic 1930's
Black Man beat Hitlers Runners
he turned his back at the Olympics
before WW2

Great Black Runner

The Nazis were voted into power by the democratic process too.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Calling millions of Americans 'willfully ignorant' is frankly disgusting

Smh

Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant.

[Cal.]

Trump's vice wants to put gays in prison for applying for a marriage licence that's so ****ed up

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The world is going backwards, I despair for this generation

The younger generation were left wing in both this election and our 2015 election, so I suppose that can be something to be possibly hopeful about I guess? I mean as left as you can be with Clinton.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Trump's vice wants to put gays in prison for applying for a marriage licence that's so ****ed up

He wants to send us all to conversion camps as well <3...

BUT GAYS4TRUMP and all that.

[Tom4784]

Let's just hope for a swift impeachment and a do over. He's going to **** up before long, it's inevitable.

[EspeonBB]

Lisa will save us in 2020!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

He wants to send us all to conversion camps as well <3...

BUT GAYS4TRUMP and all that.

Like I was saying before, people bought into the soundbites.

Trump won the election just by throwing out keywords like 'Isis', Muslim', 'Mexican', 'Immigrants'. I doubt the people who voted for him knew what they were actually doing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Like I was saying before, people bought into the soundbites.

Trump won the election just by throwing out keywords like 'Isis', Muslim', 'Mexican', 'Immigrants'. I doubt the people who voted for him knew what they were actually doing.

And your evidence for this is what?

[EspeonBB]

I feel kinda sorry for Hillary tbh. Losing is one thing, but losing to Trump is just embarrassing

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The Nazis were voted into power by the democratic process too.



Millions of people voted for Trump despite the fact that his policies were unrealistic and would be detrimental to his typical target audience simply because they bought into the soundbites rather than the reality of the situation. That's incredibly ignorant.

Exactly who is 'ignorant' is debatable and simply a matter of opinion.

Comparing Trump and anyone who voted for him to the Nazis is typical over-the-top behaviour we have came to see during both Brexit and Trump v Clinton.

Personally I feel that anyone who believes that Clinton is guilty simply of 'writing a few emails' is not exactly riding high above the 'ignorant'.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

Every word TRUE.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Trump won the election just by throwing out keywords like 'Isis', Muslim', 'Mexican', 'Immigrants'. I doubt the people who voted for him knew what they were actually doing.

I agree with this but I think you can actually take it as a positive sign... ... ... campaign bluster; he knew the voters he was targeting. I think there will be some issues when it comes to Islam, inevitably (and globally) but the rest of it I don't think there's actually a huge cause for alarm. I don't think he cares about sexuality; he just knows that his core audience does. I don't think he cares about abortion; same story. Much of his "passion" is really fake. Not much chance of him actually acting on it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And your evidence for this is what?

Throwing out your go to line because you have no actual counter argument isn't going to work here. I won't take what you say seriously if you don't actually believe what you are arguing for.