Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 15-06-2017, 09:48 PM #1
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default Youth turnout - how labourites fell for fake news

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite...ake-news/19958

Interesting and ironic.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2017, 09:55 PM #2
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
Default

"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.
user104658 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2017, 10:04 PM #3
MTVN's Avatar
MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 59,367

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
MTVN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 59,367

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


Default

tbf if that 59% figure is right then it's an increase from 44% which is still pretty significant and will have had a big impact
MTVN is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2017, 10:06 PM #4
Scarlett. Scarlett. is offline
Senior Moment
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 40,662

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Henry
BB7: Nikki


Scarlett. Scarlett. is offline
Senior Moment
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 40,662

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Henry
BB7: Nikki


Default

Ah yeah, the amazing well known journalistic site of spiked-online.com
Scarlett. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2017, 10:36 PM #5
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,030


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,030


Default

Oh. Turns out Labour didn't only get votes from stupid easily led students wanting free sweeties then. Thats a shock...not

Still, youth vote is up which is fantastic.
Vicky. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:05 AM #6
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised?
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:40 AM #7
Mystic Mock's Avatar
Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 63,782

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Sarah
BBCanada 9: Rohan


Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Senior Member
Mystic Mock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 63,782

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Sarah
BBCanada 9: Rohan


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised?
We can't win with some of the Gen-X.
__________________
Mystic Mock is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 04:18 AM #8
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.
The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.

Last edited by Brillopad; 16-06-2017 at 04:18 AM.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 08:26 AM #9
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.
I didn't say anything about the figures, I was just lamenting whichever horrible angry little trog wrote the article
user104658 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 08:42 AM #10
Northern Monkey Northern Monkey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13,269

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Ann Widdecombe
BB18: Tom


Northern Monkey Northern Monkey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13,269

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Ann Widdecombe
BB18: Tom


Default

Yeah that was apparently an inaccurate figure.The media jumped on it way too quick.
Northern Monkey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 08:47 AM #11
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised?
Unless they vote in the way the old generations want them to! Democracy indeed.

Last edited by Tom4784; 16-06-2017 at 08:47 AM.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 09:14 AM #12
smudgie's Avatar
smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
smudgie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


Default

The more people voting the better, whoever it is and whoever it is for.
smudgie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 09:42 AM #13
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post
Oh. Turns out Labour didn't only get votes from stupid easily led students wanting free sweeties then.
Not Brillo accidentally posting something that invalidates her own argument in every other thread.
user104658 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 01:37 PM #14
the truth the truth is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 14,477
the truth the truth is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 14,477
Default

They violently attack anyone who disagrees with them..bunch of violent radical hypocrites
the truth is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 01:57 PM #15
Tregard's Avatar
Tregard Tregard is offline
Stellar all-star line up
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,260

Favourites (more):
BB18: Raph
BBCanada 5: Karen


Tregard Tregard is offline
Stellar all-star line up
Tregard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,260

Favourites (more):
BB18: Raph
BBCanada 5: Karen


Default

Quote:
I have no idea why the " youth" wants to stick hundreds of billions on top of the 17 thousand billion dept we already have. They are the ones who are going to have to pay it back. Presumably they will default and head in the same direction as utopian Venesuela. How progressive. Could it be that like all "youth" throughout history they are gullible, stupid and easily led by the nose to their doom. Of course the most pampered, fat, cushioned generation in world history wont be able to cope when it all goes pete tong.Dont support euthanasia as you will probably be signing your own death warrant.
Comment by an individual who was born 34 years old
__________________
Supporting everyone to have a good time
Tregard is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 02:41 PM #16
Withano's Avatar
Withano Withano is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,741

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Ali
CBB2024: Louis Walsh


Withano Withano is offline
Senior Member
Withano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,741

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Ali
CBB2024: Louis Walsh


Default

I never actually thought the youth alone were going to swing the vote, there was a lot of parents, and a lot of elderly that seemed to be voting Labour too. Its great knowing the young vs old divide isnt as prominent as before. Im curious to see whether the parties will do more to bridge the education divide in the next election... that seemed to be the strongest predictor this time round.
__________________

Last edited by Withano; 16-06-2017 at 02:43 PM.
Withano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 02:52 PM #17
Jack_ Jack_ is offline
oh fack off
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: England
Posts: 47,434

Favourites (more):
Survivor 40: Tony
IAC2019: Ian Wright


Jack_ Jack_ is offline
oh fack off
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: England
Posts: 47,434

Favourites (more):
Survivor 40: Tony
IAC2019: Ian Wright


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.
I pointed out that the youth turnout figures weren't as originally reported, and indeed not as crucial to Labour's unexpected performance in this post:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...1&postcount=38

You spent several days denigrating the young for voting for 'freebies', then when I pointed out that actually according to YouGov's analysis, the majority of those under 50 voted for Labour, you argued that these figures couldn't possibly be correct and no one could know. And now you're using those very figures - that I've already drawn attention to and you've criticised - to accuse 'Labourites' (this isn't even a thing) of falling for 'fake news'. Make your mind up.

Again, does anyone on this forum read people's posts properly?
Jack_ is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:03 PM #18
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
OG(den)
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 103,194


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
OG(den)
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 103,194


Default

how does one account for Canterbury?
Crimson Dynamo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:14 PM #19
Jack_ Jack_ is offline
oh fack off
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: England
Posts: 47,434

Favourites (more):
Survivor 40: Tony
IAC2019: Ian Wright


Jack_ Jack_ is offline
oh fack off
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: England
Posts: 47,434

Favourites (more):
Survivor 40: Tony
IAC2019: Ian Wright


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
how does one account for Canterbury?
University city, voted to remain, solid ground game coupled with Tory complacency
Jack_ is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:20 PM #20
MTVN's Avatar
MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 59,367

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
MTVN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 59,367

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Withano View Post
I never actually thought the youth alone were going to swing the vote, there was a lot of parents, and a lot of elderly that seemed to be voting Labour too. Its great knowing the young vs old divide isnt as prominent as before. Im curious to see whether the parties will do more to bridge the education divide in the next election... that seemed to be the strongest predictor this time round.
That isn't really the case though, Yougov's figures show that age is still very much the dividing factor and possible more now than before

MTVN is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:31 PM #21
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTVN View Post
That isn't really the case though, Yougov's figures show that age is still very much the dividing factor and possible more now than before

Yes but a crossover age of FORTY SEVEN hardly suggests its all "students looking for freebies"... Surely.
user104658 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:40 PM #22
MTVN's Avatar
MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 59,367

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
MTVN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 59,367

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
Yes but a crossover age of FORTY SEVEN hardly suggests its all "students looking for freebies"... Surely.
I don't think anyone would say it was all that but the scale of support for Labour amongst young voters clearly was a big factor in this election. Look how different it is to 2015

MTVN is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 03:57 PM #23
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
OG(den)
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 103,194


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
OG(den)
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 103,194


Default

youthful hope and the reality of age

its usually around 30 you realise that life is unfair, people are out for themselves, you have bills to pay and people rely on you, business runs the UK not governments and what you are now is probably what you will be

so you start to vote more for yourself rather than try to change what you cannot

lol
Crimson Dynamo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 04:38 PM #24
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
youthful hope and the reality of age

its usually around 30 you realise that life is unfair, people are out for themselves, you have bills to pay and people rely on you, business runs the UK not governments and what you are now is probably what you will be

so you start to vote more for yourself rather than try to change what you cannot

lol
Are you calling Tory voters selfish LT?

Also any business owner who votes in favour of austerity is... Err... An idiot. Directly voting to take money out of the pockets of his customers. Utterly daft.
user104658 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-06-2017, 07:07 PM #25
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
Unless they vote in the way the old generations want them to! Democracy indeed.
Don't you bloody start! I'm an old generation remember
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
fake, fell, labourites, news, turnout, youth


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:46 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts