[Shaun]

I generally consider all swear words to be neutral and apply to either gender, tbh, even if they're slang words for either set of genitals. So no. India's a prick and Daniel's a twat.

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But men get called bitch and slag as well .

Well I associate them with women, personally. Not saying that men wouldn't get called it but I associate it with a woman.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Quite possibly

I mean LT and I are both straight guys, we know exactly what we mean when we say these things. That's where our judgments come from. Prick is a much softer slur than dickhead, and dickhead is most definitely restricted to males

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Well I associate them with women, personally. Not saying that men wouldn't get called it but I associate it with a woman.

Maybe so but they're just insults towards both men & women .
And if Andrew called Rachel that word I bet nobody would find it weird .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Well I associate them with women, personally. Not saying that men wouldn't get called it but I associate it with a woman.

They definitely are "female" insults but when they're used towards men it's usually because they're accusing the man of displaying some sort of stereotypical negative female trait ie. Slag : Sleeping around in a negative view=woman (whereas if you're complimenting or admiring the man for getting all the ladies then he goes back to being male like a stud or whatever) Then Bitch - The guy is behaving like a woman because he's talking nastily behind a persons back etc because of course a man acting like a man could never do something as petty as that...................all very standard everyday sexism

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I mean LT and I are both straight guys, we know exactly what we mean when we say these things. That's where our judgments come from. Prick is a much softer slur than dickhead, and dickhead is most definitely restricted to males

It still does depend where you're from though, I have very often heard girls being referred to as dickheads, I've called women dickheads before as well

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It still does depend where you're from though, I have very often heard girls being referred to as dickheads, I've called women dickheads before as well

So have I if they don't indicate or pull out straight in front of me !!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

was this borderline transphobic?

idk ‘prick’ just doesn’t seem like a gender neutral insult to me and something you are much more likely to say to a man

Clutching at straws there I would say. She is lucky he is as nice as he is and didn’t give her the piece of their mind she deserved that many would have.

And some of those stupid women need to stop pandering to her just because they think it will get them brownie points with the PC brigade.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It still does depend where you're from though, I have very often heard girls being referred to as dickheads, I've called women dickheads before as well

This. It's more common in the north of England for example (which is where Andrew's from I think?) than the south, really don't think there was anything gender related in either the 'prick' or 'dickhead' comments or that he was thinking of her as a man when he said them. Some people don't consider gender at all when using those words.

[GoldHeart]

Godsake this debate is tiresome .
I have heard women get called those insults in BB in the past and on other TV shows .
Just like I've heard guys get called all sorts on TV shows as well .

[Northern Monkey]

In these modern times of progressive gender neutrality and female equality women should be afforded the opportunity to be insulted in the same manner that a man would be.We need to move on from these gender specific slurs and embrace a new more inclusive way to communicate.


So basically India = Prick and Dickhead.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh please... Something else they're not allowed to say to India? She IS a prick. And she's also a 'see you en teee'. There... two genders covered.

Only our Livia

[armand.kay]

prick is gender neutral where I'm from?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I mean LT and I are both straight guys, we know exactly what we mean when we say these things. That's where our judgments come from. Prick is a much softer slur than dickhead, and dickhead is most definitely restricted to males

Not where I'm from its not. Anyone can be a dickhead....or a prick.....or a twat.....etc etc......not gender specific in the slightest. Maybe a northern thing but as I said in another thread here in Manchester if you act like a dickhead you'll get called.one, man or woman

[Tom4784]

I didn't think it was. I've heard prick and dickhead used as insults towards women before.

[smudgie]

I have both called women dickheads and pricks before and been called both myself.

Daft prick is a quite common saying to either sexes.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I have both called women dickheads and pricks before and been called both myself.

Daft prick is a quite common saying to either sexes.

I can't believe that Smudgie

[Vanessa]

He was right though

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He was right though

Thank you . Someone should call that to her face .

[jaxie]

I think people have words thy use when they are angry and obviously prick and dickhead are words that Andrew uses. I don't think it's any indication of the sex of the person he is angry at. They are just go to words. Some people will always use the word c you next tuesday but they aren't calling every one they are mad at a woman.

[Firewire]

She is a prick

[Crimson Dynamo]

Prickhead?

[Ashley.]

Gender-specific swear words? Now I've heard everything.

I can think of numerous women who I'd classify as a prick. India's one of them.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Gender-specific swear words? Now I've heard everything.

I can think of numerous women who I'd classify as a prick. India's one of them.

Same she's a massive one !

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

His "Dickhead" comment was made to a man not a woman so he sees her as a man not a woman

disgusting transphobia from the "Forum pinup"

This modern use of "phobia" is a bollocks term, is there any indication that Andrew has an irrational fear or aversion to India because she's trans? No.

If Andrew sees India as a man, as you say he does, then tough - just because someone wants to identify as they please it doesn't mean they can force others to think how they want them to as well. India grew as a man, she's a man who's had surgery and feels that that she's a woman inside, that's all.

India's "phobia" of drag queens is far worse than any other in the house because it's a lie, it's jealousy that someone's stealing her thunder, taking her preachy self-righteous limelight. She's a crap example of a human being and will do trans people no favours with her behaviour.