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Originally Posted by Marches

Because there is very little information about gender dysphoria online because more often than not medical proffesionals dismiss it as not a medical illness, which I believe to be false from seeing the sucide rates/people recounting their experiences with the condition

Which it isn't

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Originally Posted by Paula D

As someone who's been waiting for an operation for 3 1/2 years now for something that affects me both physically and mentally I'd have to agree with Ann.

Priorities have to be set where's there's a limited amount of money.

Exactly Paula .. Medical ALWAYS should come first, anything else should be paid for yourself, . India bragged that £14,000 had been spent on her "chosen" op ,while people like you are sat waiting in pain or discomfort

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

so then the argument about suicide rates is irrelevant.

India is not all, and is a poor representative, of the trans community

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one is doubting anything, the debate is about priority in the NHS

maybe if you read the thread instead of jumping in on your little tykes bandwagon you would contribute to it?

Why do most of the people on this forum have to be so aggro when they post? Why would people feel incentified to contribute to it if they talk about something they care about and get shut down?

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Originally Posted by Marches

India is not all, and is a poor representative, of the trans community

I've seen you post the % of suicide rates pre treatment, what were they post treatment? That is where any benefit is highlighted. Without both figures, the statistic is meaningless.

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Anyone who thinks the money spent on India was justified need to sit back and take stock .. Does she look like a woman ? No she doesn't .. Does she act like a woman ? No she doesn't .Is she happy? No she isn't ...So all that money that could have been spent on cancer treatment was wasted on her

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Do people think India is a well adjusted, stable person after her treatment?

India is a very unstable argumentative person.
She still has issues she needs to sort out , whether that's because she transitioned so late in her life who knows.

But NHS is there for serious medical conditions and illnesses . It's not there exclusively for gender reasignments .

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

India is a very unstable argumentative person.
She still has issues she needs to sort out , whether that's because she transitioned so late in her life who knows.

But NHS is there for serious medical conditions and illnesses . It's not there exclusively for gender reasignments .

If he had the op to feel better about himself he's wasted NHS money because Ive never seen a more bitter, miserable woman

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Can people stick to the topic please....it's not eachother

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Niamh isn't transphobia against forum rules like other forms of prejudice?

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Originally Posted by Greg!

Niamh isn't transphobia against forum rules like other forms of prejudice?

you mean like ageism

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Originally Posted by Cherie

you mean like ageism

Yes but I'm not sure what that's got to do with this thread.

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Originally Posted by Greg!

Yes but I'm not sure what that's got to do with this thread.

You mentioned forum rules in general so it is very relevant

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Originally Posted by Cherie

you mean like ageism

Love it In going to get myself a "phobia" or an" ist" when i go Tesco on Saturday then i can demand special treatment

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Originally Posted by Greg!

Niamh isn't transphobia against forum rules like other forms of prejudice?

This is a discussion about the NHS and whether or not people believe it should be paying for these operations, people are allowed have an opinion on that, I understand this is a sensitive subject but I'm not going to shut down peoples opinions on it unless they're being deliberately offensive

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Originally Posted by Cherie

You mentioned forum rules in general so it is very relevant

Okay.

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

This is a discussion about the NHS and whether or not people believe it should be paying for these operations, people are allowed have an opinion on that, I understand this is a sensitive subject but I'm not going to shut down peoples opinions on it unless they're being deliberately offensive

I meant Chuff's misgendering of India

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And sorry but many of the posts are "deliberately offensive"

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

This is a discussion about the NHS and whether or not people believe it should be paying for these operations, people are allowed have an opinion on that, I understand this is a sensitive subject but I'm not going to shut down peoples opinions on it unless they're being deliberately offensive

When we pay into the NHS every month I fell we have a right to discuss if its been used as it should be

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Originally Posted by Greg!

I meant Chuff's misgendering of India

Well, the way I read Chuffs post, it seemed to me like she was differentiating between India pre and post op as she refers to her as a woman post op

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, the way I read Chuffs post, it seemed to me like she was differentiating between India pre and post op as she refers to her as a woman post op

That's really not the way most people would read it

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, the way I read Chuffs post, it seemed to me like she was differentiating between India pre and post op as she refers to her as a woman post op

Thats right I did, but don't let facts get in the way I used HE before the op ( When Jonathon wasn't happy ) and SHE after the op ( When India still wasn't happy)

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Originally Posted by Greg!

I meant Chuff's misgendering of India

I think chuff meant pre- op as before India became a woman ,she was a HE .

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Originally Posted by Greg!

That's really not the way most people would read it

How do you know how other people would read it Greg? It makes sense to read it that way for the point she was trying to make

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Thats right I did, but don't let facts get in the way I used HE before the op ( When Jonathon wasn't happy ) and SHE after the op ( When India still wasn't happy)

Not to be pedantic but you said "he's" wasted NHS money