[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As you know by now Kirk I have neither the time nor the inclination to post page-long dissertations on these topic as you do, I learned long ago that there's simply very little point. Especially on the Internet. something that I'm surprised you haven't realised yet.

However, two brief reasons:

1) over 50% if the UKs import/export trade is with Eu member states. If you believe that those trades won't be affected (amounting to tens of billions) by removing ourselves from the EU you are lying to yourself.

2) as someone else mentioned, US based and other global multinationals currently use the UK as a "stepping stone" to access the massive European marketplace. They will have very little interest in this scrappy little island without that link. I'll trust you to look into the economic implications of that for yourself.

The UK's place on the world stage is reliant on being a part of Europe. The only people who don't realise this are those who still, unfathomably, have their heads stuck in idea of Britain as an Empire, that we are somehow globally "great" on simple account of our own wonderful Great Britishness. We don't want to be part of Europe because we are somehow "bigger and better than that". We are not.

Please tell me.........please, what is the fcuking point of having all these so called "European benefits" if one cannot get or have the following:-

Access to a Doctor
Access to a Dentist (NHS)
Roads and/or Motorways that are not constantly blocked
Less than a 5 hour wait at any A&E
A Hospital Bed
Hospital Operation in less than a year
Medication on NHS for all treatments incl Cancer therapies.
A School within 5 miles of where you live
Less than 30 classmates
English spoken as the primary language.
House prices low enough for first time buyers to get on the housing ladder
Proper Employment contracts that give job security (end to zero hr contracts)
End to influx of cheap eastern European labour that under cuts agreed UK wage levels.

If being in the flippin EU is so dam good for us then please explain after 40 years in this failed European Project why our quality of life has gone DOWN in nearly every area of our lives......

I shudder to think how we would be living now if we had not joined the Common market back in 1975.....