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Originally Posted by Cherie

Labour are going to be a **** show

Jess Phillips has been accused of “making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing and intimidating members of the media”, after gangs of men in balaclavas turned out in Birmingham on Monday night.

Former home secretary James Cleverly called for the home office minister to “think about the consequences” of her words after the Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley tweeted about violent scenes in her constituency.

Large groups of men, some sporting Palestinian flags, gathered outside a mosque in the Bordesley Green area after rumours circulated that the far right were planning on targeting it.

Footage later in the evening showed a number of incidents involving the masked men, some attacking passing cars and in another incident setting upon a man outside a pub.

A Sky News van was attacked by a man with a knife as the TV crew attempted to leave the area after being told they were not welcome, reporter Becky Johnson later said. Ms Johnson was interrupted by a protester on a motorbike who swore and made rude gestures at the camera while attempting to deliver a live report in Birmingham.

Ms Phillips suggested that the rumours of the far right gathering had been deliberately spread in a bid to cause trouble.

“To be clear, all day rumours have been spread that a far right group were coming and it was done entirely to get Muslim people out on the street to drive this content”, the home office minister tweeted. “It is misinformation being spread to create trouble.”



Responding to a second clip of a man in a balaclava swearing at the reporter, Ms Phillips said: “These people came to this location because it has been spread

that racists were coming to attack them. This misinformation was spread entirely to create this content.”

Mr Cleverly criticised her for the comments, writing on social media: “Home Office ministers should not be making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing, and intimidating members of the media.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...d=BingNewsSerp


you have to ask why are the media not welcome, Sky and LBC both run out of areas now? Jonathan Ashworth was also told he was not welcome while campaigning they have a problem there that needs addressing unless we are saying some areas are out of bounds for some people?

It's all pointless distraction though, like I said earlier in the thread. Like building a town on a floodplain, seeing it destroyed by floods, and simply blaming the rain.

The people out being violent are not thinkers. They're just angry, reactive mobs. You might as well blame a tornado or an earthquake. There are far more sinister forces at work -- the people who haven't lifted a finger but are creating the social environment that leads to unrest. Your Farages, your Tommy Robbos, the people who ignored grooming gangs, various people in power and government, now and over the course of many years.

I know people are big on individual responsibility. I just don't have that faith in most of any population. "A person is smart. People are dumb."

Hive minds and mob mentality are a powerful and scary thing.