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Originally Posted by Yaki da

Nope, it came long before. Ashleigh had made it perfectly clear to Helen she didn't like her and Helen often commented on it. And Ash when asked who the person he detested the most in the house was, said Ashleigh. All of this was before any conversations were played back. She had made it perfectly clear to both of them that she couldn't stand them.

I'll take your word for that then although it doesn't register with me as that early but you seem sure of that as a 100% fact

It still doesn't excuse the things she has said to others as to Helen behind her back, rather than to her face.
As for Ash, I agree he was unpleasnt as to Ashleigh at the start,something she has clearly held against him until all her so called friends have gone.
With him not doing or saying anything unpleasant for ages now as to her.

The point is Helen only learned the real nastiness of what Ashleigh thought as to her from the vt playbacks.
Ashleigh never said a thing to Helen's face whatsoever, now she is all over Helen.
What does that say about her,I am just disappointed Helen has not seen through that too.