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Originally Posted by RodHull

I seem to remember a whole group of them huddled around saying how petrified they were how they couldnt stay in the house (ring led by gemma if I recall) and then he said 'well then we either go or she does' basically

It was misjudged for sure but he was a mouthpiece for a group decision and he was also one of the first to offer an olive branch and include her back in the group.

If memory serves the worst most vocal ones saying how they couldnt stand living with her were gemma kristina chris and daniella



Are we watching different shows...

That convo was ridiculous, he basically played along to wind her up a bit, he doesnt have a game... he knows he cant win, and after that she realised I think hes just some guy and it was actually gemma causing most of the s**t as from that point she slowly removed herself from gemmas ass and is now actually standing up to her. It was and always has been gemma causing 90% of the crap in there with her snide remarks and winding others up then standing back watching the carnage

Like the whole steph jeremy daniella thing wasnt an issue at all until she stuck her fat hoof in and made it an issue then kept winding daniella up she literally caused that rift between steph and daniella and I think Tiff saw it slowly.

You recall wrongly. Gemma was never the ringleader in trying to get Tiff to leave, JOHN was. Do you think people are stupid? Gemma also does not make snide remarks and wind people up - that is a total fabrication. I have asked for evidence of Gemma causing all the trouble that she is accused of and not one person has been able to produce any. Isn't that telling?
Tiff has rarely been seen with John, Gemma has been her friend for ages now. Tiff told Gemma just a few nights ago that she loved her and she couldn't have done it in the house without her. So are you saying Tiff was being a complete fake and liar?
John is the one who goes around **** stirring and putting stuff into peoples heads in his sneaky, fake - concerned way, then when it kicks off he comes in as the peace - maker and comforter. I am absolutely stunned that some can't see that, it is so clear.

John has overplayed his hand tonight though. He was her only friend? Since when? He now knows that Tiff is a big fave as she was saved first and got cheers. So to gain public approval he has inserted himself up Tiff's ass and plastered himself all over her in the garden with his silly giggling and high fiving her and slagging off Gemma. He is a two faced ****. He took advantage of the little 'tiff' Gemma and Tiff had to try to put a wedge between them. I was nearly sick when he went into the DR and was bigging up Tiff to ingratiate himself with the public.
He is an utter fake and absolutely detestable.