[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Discipline, something sadly missing today

Thank god, we don't have need for such a weak brand of parenting. A parent that raises their hand to their children have failed at parenting. Fear is not a healthy way of parenting children at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Thank god, we don't have need for such a weak brand of parenting. A parent that raises their hand to their children have failed at parenting. Fear is not a healthy way of parenting children at all.

How many children do you have ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

How many children do you have ?

i am going to say

Spoiler:

none

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i am going to say

Spoiler:

none

Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

I have children

[chuff me dizzy]

IMO the main reason todays kids are out of control is down to parents who put themselves before their children, they have no home security, Mothers out on the lash all weekend while they are dumped here, there and everywhere ,I see Mothers pick their kids up from school while busy on their phones telling the world on Facebook what they are doing ......... CarlyLuvsHerKidsSmith "On school run " Put your phone down, hold your childs hand and ask them what they've done at school

They get little Johnny home ,let him go on his Xbox until his ready meal is cooked ,then back off upstairs he goes, hardly had a chance to talk to his Mother as she was playing Candy Crush or telling her mates how her spray tan turned out while he was eating his tea

Children need to be made to feel special to their parents, not just a little someone they get extra benefits for to fund their new iPhone

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO the main reason todays kids are out of control is down to parents who put themselves before their children, they have no home security, Mothers out on the lash all weekend while they are dumped here, there and everywhere ,I see Mothers pick their kids up from school while busy on their phones telling the world on Facebook what they are doing ......... CarlyLuvsHerKidsSmith "On school run " Put your phone down, hold your childs hand and ask them what they've done at school

They get little Johnny home ,let him go on his Xbox until his ready meal is cooked ,then back off upstairs he goes, hardly had a chance to talk to his Mother as she was playing Candy Crush or telling her mates how her spray tan turned out while he was eating his tea

Children need to be made to feel special to their parents, not just a little someone they get extra benefits for to fund their new iPhone

That's a totally different topic tbf to what we're talking about. I agree with alot of that too (of course id' probably replace "mother" with parents though

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO the main reason todays kids are out of control is down to parents who put themselves before their children, they have no home security, Mothers out on the lash all weekend while they are dumped here, there and everywhere ,I see Mothers pick their kids up from school while busy on their phones telling the world on Facebook what they are doing ......... CarlyLuvsHerKidsSmith "On school run " Put your phone down, hold your childs hand and ask them what they've done at school

They get little Johnny home ,let him go on his Xbox until his ready meal is cooked ,then back off upstairs he goes, hardly had a chance to talk to his Mother as she was playing Candy Crush or telling her mates how her spray tan turned out while he was eating his tea

Children need to be made to feel special to their parents, not just a little someone they get extra benefits for to fund their new iPhone

See I agree with all of that; kids who go out of control do so because they aren't getting to spend quality time with their families or increasingly even their peers.

We've had flak (especially online) in the past for the fact that our daughter has been allowed to "play out" with her friends since she was 7...which was totally normal when I was a kid... But a lot of people now say they shouldn't be out without an adult until the age of 12!? Which is madness. I mean I get it for those who have no choice but to live in inner-city areas but in smaller, safer places even though there will always be risks, the tradeoff by not allowing kids any freedom is life-long and huge. A generation of timid, risk-averse, socially anxious young adults.

Of course, hitting / not hitting doesn't come into that at all.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

That's silly, there are plenty of people in this world who know how to raise kids right who don't have children of their own. Do you insist that daycares only be run by parents? Can someone not become a child psychologist or behavioural expert without knocking someone up or pushing out a baby?

Your 'point' makes no sense and it only serves to try to suppress my opinion without putting any effort into actually arguing against it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

I'm assuming you weren't smacked as a child, chuff.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm assuming you weren't smacked as a child, chuff.

only as an adult

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

How many children do you have ?

Oh look, another blatant attempt at suppressing opinions.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Oh look, another blatant attempt at suppressing opinions.

Yeah because you need to have had kids to have an opinion on whether an adult should be allowed hit a small child

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Oh look, another blatant attempt at suppressing opinions.

or maybe a salient reminder that one may not have the best idea what one is talking about?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or maybe a salient reminder that one may not have the best idea what one is talking about?

he's making more sense on the subject than some people with kids imo and I say that as a mother

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

How many children do you have ?

So Dezzy has no part in this debate because he doesn't have children? OK. So I suppose we should ban men from debates regarding women, and straight people from debates regarding LGBT issues. What a sad attempt at trying to belittle somebody's worth in a thread that is open for anybody to contribute to.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

So Dezzy has no part in this debate because he doesn't have children? OK. So I suppose we should ban men from debates regarding women, and straight people from debates regarding LGBT issues. What a sad attempt at trying to belittle somebody's worth in a thread that is open for anybody to contribute to.

well said Ashley

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

So Dezzy has no part in this debate because he doesn't have children? OK. So I suppose we should ban men from debates regarding women, and straight people from debates regarding LGBT issues. What a sad attempt at trying to belittle somebody's worth in a thread that is open for anybody to contribute to.

Ive been told many times I do not understand the "struggle" LGBT people have because Im not gay

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

ive been told many times i do not understand the "struggle" lgbt people have because im not gay

if we waded into an lbgt debate we would soon be told we have no idea what we are on about...


but hey

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if we waded into an lbgt debate we would soon be told we have no idea what we are on about...


but hey

Its been said to straight members very often

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if we waded into an lbgt debate we would soon be told we have no idea what we are on about...


but hey

That's hardly anything to complain about when you have both just attempted to ostracise somebody else for participating in a discussion that may not directly concern them. In fact if you're so eager to put somebody else down for it, then you shouldn't be surprised to receive the same treatment.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

That's hardly anything to complain about when you have both just attempted to ostracise somebody else for participating in a discussion that may not directly concern them. In fact if you're so eager to put somebody else down for it, then you shouldn't be surprised to receive the same treatment.

I'd like to add Dezzy wasn't the only one who doesn't have kids but commented, difference is the others were on the "right" side

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ive been told many times I do not understand the "struggle" LGBT people have because Im not gay

Of course you don't, but that doesn't mean you can't have an opinion. You tried to suppress my opinion by basically saying I couldn't have a say if I don't have kids.

You can't understand what it's like to be LGBT but nobody has ever tried to suppress your right to an opinion on it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Of course you don't, but that doesn't mean you can't have an opinion. You tried to suppress my opinion by basically saying I couldn't have a say if I don't have kids.

You can't understand what it's like to be LGBT but nobody has ever tried to suppress your right to an opinion on it.

Seriously ? I cannot believe what Im reading here ,I will save this comment for use in the future

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Seriously ? I cannot believe what Im reading here ,I will save this comment for use in the future

Instead of the vague baiting, why don't you try to explain what's wrong with it?