[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i am going to say

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Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

I have children

[chuff me dizzy]

IMO the main reason todays kids are out of control is down to parents who put themselves before their children, they have no home security, Mothers out on the lash all weekend while they are dumped here, there and everywhere ,I see Mothers pick their kids up from school while busy on their phones telling the world on Facebook what they are doing ......... CarlyLuvsHerKidsSmith "On school run " Put your phone down, hold your childs hand and ask them what they've done at school

They get little Johnny home ,let him go on his Xbox until his ready meal is cooked ,then back off upstairs he goes, hardly had a chance to talk to his Mother as she was playing Candy Crush or telling her mates how her spray tan turned out while he was eating his tea

Children need to be made to feel special to their parents, not just a little someone they get extra benefits for to fund their new iPhone

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO the main reason todays kids are out of control is down to parents who put themselves before their children, they have no home security, Mothers out on the lash all weekend while they are dumped here, there and everywhere ,I see Mothers pick their kids up from school while busy on their phones telling the world on Facebook what they are doing ......... CarlyLuvsHerKidsSmith "On school run " Put your phone down, hold your childs hand and ask them what they've done at school

They get little Johnny home ,let him go on his Xbox until his ready meal is cooked ,then back off upstairs he goes, hardly had a chance to talk to his Mother as she was playing Candy Crush or telling her mates how her spray tan turned out while he was eating his tea

Children need to be made to feel special to their parents, not just a little someone they get extra benefits for to fund their new iPhone

That's a totally different topic tbf to what we're talking about. I agree with alot of that too (of course id' probably replace "mother" with parents though

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's a totally different topic tbf to what we're talking about. I agree with alot of that too (of course id' probably replace "mother" with parents though

Its usually the mother who picks the kiddies up from school while Dads doing his drug run

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO the main reason todays kids are out of control is down to parents who put themselves before their children, they have no home security, Mothers out on the lash all weekend while they are dumped here, there and everywhere ,I see Mothers pick their kids up from school while busy on their phones telling the world on Facebook what they are doing ......... CarlyLuvsHerKidsSmith "On school run " Put your phone down, hold your childs hand and ask them what they've done at school

They get little Johnny home ,let him go on his Xbox until his ready meal is cooked ,then back off upstairs he goes, hardly had a chance to talk to his Mother as she was playing Candy Crush or telling her mates how her spray tan turned out while he was eating his tea

Children need to be made to feel special to their parents, not just a little someone they get extra benefits for to fund their new iPhone

See I agree with all of that; kids who go out of control do so because they aren't getting to spend quality time with their families or increasingly even their peers.

We've had flak (especially online) in the past for the fact that our daughter has been allowed to "play out" with her friends since she was 7...which was totally normal when I was a kid... But a lot of people now say they shouldn't be out without an adult until the age of 12!? Which is madness. I mean I get it for those who have no choice but to live in inner-city areas but in smaller, safer places even though there will always be risks, the tradeoff by not allowing kids any freedom is life-long and huge. A generation of timid, risk-averse, socially anxious young adults.

Of course, hitting / not hitting doesn't come into that at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

See I agree with all of that; kids who go out of control do so because they aren't getting to spend quality time with their families or increasingly even their peers.

We've had flak (especially online) in the past for the fact that our daughter has been allowed to "play out" with her friends since she was 7...which was totally normal when I was a kid... But a lot of people now say they shouldn't be out without an adult until the age of 12!? Which is madness. I mean I get it for those who have no choice but to live in inner-city areas but in smaller, safer places even though there will always be risks, the tradeoff by not allowing kids any freedom is life-long and huge. A generation of timid, risk-averse, socially anxious young adults.

Of course, hitting / not hitting doesn't come into that at all.

Its awful, I feel so sorry for a lot of children who live near me, they stand no hope in life ,my children played out too when they were your childs age it was safe to do so, I much prefer a child playing out ( if safe to do so ) than stuck in a bedroom alone playing on an xbox ,Parents are so different now, the children dont come 1st despite putting "LuvsHerKids" in their facebook name

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

That's silly, there are plenty of people in this world who know how to raise kids right who don't have children of their own. Do you insist that daycares only be run by parents? Can someone not become a child psychologist or behavioural expert without knocking someone up or pushing out a baby?

Your 'point' makes no sense and it only serves to try to suppress my opinion without putting any effort into actually arguing against it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Exactly, people who dont have children do not know how to raise them to be decent human being

I'm assuming you weren't smacked as a child, chuff.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm assuming you weren't smacked as a child, chuff.

only as an adult