[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think it's the same thing. A hug is different from a playfight.

Both result in personal contact but yet again the difference between the two is actually irrelevant they were just examples but you keep missing the point.

Right. Say I was in the house with two guys, one I was pretty close with and struck up a friendship with and our frienship was such that we would play fight, then a guy I barely knew tried to play the same with me - I would not feel comfortable. I barely know him and our relationship is not developed enough for me to be comfortable to play around and have his hands on me.

Are you suggesting I have no right to say I was uncomfortable with him being in my personal space because I allow another person to? Because that is basically what you are saying.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Both result in personal contact but yet again the difference between the two is actually irrelevant they were just examples but you keep missing the point.

Right. Say I was in the house with two guys, one I was pretty close with and struck up a friendship with and our frienship was such that we would play fight, then a guy I barely knew tried to play the same with me - I would not feel comfortable. I barely know him and our relationship is not developed enough for me to be comfortable to play around and have his hands on me.

Are you suggesting I have no right to say I was uncomfortable with him being in my personal space because I allow another person to? Because that is basically what you are saying.

I think she overreacted.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think she overreacted.

I give up. Clearly you just don't get it.

I agree she overreacted but the fact remains just because you are comfortable with one person engaging with you in a certain way doesn't mean you HAVE to be comfortable with another person engaging with you in the same way. Not even sure how you keep missing the point actually.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I give up. Clearly you just don't get it.

I agree she overreacted but the fact remains just because you are comfortable with one person engaging with you in a certain way doesn't mean you HAVE to be comfortable with another person engaging with you in rge same way. Not even sure how you keep missing the point actually.

She's the first to violate people's boundaries in there.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's the first to violate people's boundaries in there.

When?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

When?

She playfights with the boys all the time.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She playfights with the boys all the time.

With Ben. He is happy to play along, whos boundaries were violated?

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She playfights with the boys all the time.

We’ve already explained to you many times why this argument is irrellevent...

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She playfights with the boys all the time.

correct, but never has it got physical, and she wasn't fighting back

Like what we gotta keep in mind is we don't know her history, sis could have some serious trauma-related history with physical violence and that's why it upset her when Ryan made contact, regardless of how light/joking he was and his intent

it's like saying it's okay to punch Conor McGregor because he fights 'all the time'

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's the first to violate people's boundaries in there.

Please just accept that you can’t make a relevant argument instead of just throwing out random insults...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

Please just accept that you can’t make a relevant argument instead of just throwing out random insults...

She playfights with the boys all the time.