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Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

What’s happened in the past is irrellevent... Only Roxanne can define her own personal boundaries... Just because it was acceptable for someone else does not mean someone else will consider it in the same manner...

Same goes for Ryan. And Roxanne trying to make him look like an abuser is also wrong.

Greg! · 31-08-2018, 12:19 AM

I can't believe people are actually defending ha

This website never ceases to amaze me.

Still want her in mind! For the mess

kingston · 31-08-2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think she's overreacting big time. That's all.

That’s fine... However it doesn’t give you the right to write off the entire situation... Roxanne is still entitled to feel violated and your opinion doesn’t discount Ryan’s behaviour...

Alf · 31-08-2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Panther

I love u, Mr Magoo!

I love you too Pinky.

Pink Panther · 31-08-2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

I can't believe people are actually defending ha

This website never ceases to amaze me.

Still want her in mind! For the mess

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

I can't believe people are actually defending ha

This website never ceases to amaze me.

Still want her in mind! For the mess

Even ds is backing ryan on this

rusticgal · 31-08-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

What are you talking about? If you’re trying to slut shame Roxanne isn’t not going to happen... Just because someone acts a particular way does not imply they are “asking for it”...

Slut shame??....since when did I do that?...'asking for it'...I never said she was 'asking for it'... What Roxanne did tonight was disgraceful and what she called Ryan and the insinuations she made was disgraceful...to ask for his removal was out of order. If you want to be the prize prankster in the house..then don't go crying when someone pulls a prank on you. She isn't a prankster but she's playful to the point of being annoying. She acts like a tomboy..fooling around with the lads (more so Ben)...then cries wolf when someone fools around with her....
If Ryan hurt her all she had to say was..go easy that hurt..then laugh it off...but she called him a woman beater...Do you think that was right?..Do you seriously think that his behaviour made her feel uncomfortable enough to not sleep in the same room as him..especially as she had spent the evening partying with him?
She should be ashamed of herself...she went too far.

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

That’s fine... However it doesn’t give you the right to write off the entire situation... Roxanne is still entitled to feel violated and your opinion doesn’t discount Ryan’s behaviour...

Her behaviour is attention seeking at best.

kingston · 31-08-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

I can't believe people are actually defending ha

This website never ceases to amaze me.

Still want her in mind! For the mess

I can’t believe there are people on this website that doesn’t understand the concept of consent and personal boundaries... It never ceases to amaze me how low fans of this show can go...

kingston · 31-08-2018, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Her behaviour is attention seeking at best.

Now you’re just victim shaming...

Pink Panther · 31-08-2018, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

I can’t believe there are people on this website that doesn’t understand the concept of consent and personal boundaries... It never ceases to amaze me how low fans of this show can go...

He didn't touch her. Why is it so hard to understand. The video is CLEAR AS DAY.

kingston · 31-08-2018, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

Slut shame??....since when did I do that?...'asking for it'...I never said she was 'asking for it'... What Roxanne did tonight was disgraceful and what she called Ryan and the insinuations she made was disgraceful...to ask for his removal was out of order. If you want to be the prize prankster in the house..then don't go crying when someone pulls a prank on you. She isn't a prankster but she's playful to the point of being annoying. She acts like a tomboy..fooling around with the lads (more so Ben)...then cries wolf when someone fools around with her....
If Ryan hurt her all she had to say was..go easy that hurt..then laugh it off...but she called him a woman beater...Do you think that was right?..Do you seriously think that his behaviour made her feel uncomfortable enough to not sleep in the same room as him..especially as she had spent the evening partying with him?
She should be ashamed of herself...she went too far.

Roxanne didn’t “insinuate” anything...

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

Now you’re just victim shaming...

Oh please, she isn't a victim. It was just playfighting. He didn't attack her, fgs!

kingston · 31-08-2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Panther

He didn't touch her. Why is it so hard to understand. The video is CLEAR AS DAY.

Unwelcomed behaviour isn’t limited to touching...

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Panther

He didn't touch her. Why is it so hard to understand. The video is CLEAR AS DAY.

This!

Amy Jade · 31-08-2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think it's the same thing. A hug is different from a playfight.

Both result in personal contact but yet again the difference between the two is actually irrelevant they were just examples but you keep missing the point.

Right. Say I was in the house with two guys, one I was pretty close with and struck up a friendship with and our frienship was such that we would play fight, then a guy I barely knew tried to play the same with me - I would not feel comfortable. I barely know him and our relationship is not developed enough for me to be comfortable to play around and have his hands on me.

Are you suggesting I have no right to say I was uncomfortable with him being in my personal space because I allow another person to? Because that is basically what you are saying.

Greg! · 31-08-2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

I can’t believe there are people on this website that doesn’t understand the concept of consent and personal boundaries... It never ceases to amaze me how low fans of this show can go...

MESS he was only having a laugh. If she was annoyed or actually hurt she had to do was say "ow Ryan that hurt." In fact she did, and Ryan apologised and walked away.

But then she took it too far and tried to get him chucked out and ruin his reputation and career by acting like he's some scary violent person.

You can't be serious trying to defend her

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Both result in personal contact but yet again the difference between the two is actually irrelevant they were just examples but you keep missing the point.

Right. Say I was in the house with two guys, one I was pretty close with and struck up a friendship with and our frienship was such that we would play fight, then a guy I barely knew tried to play the same with me - I would not feel comfortable. I barely know him and our relationship is not developed enough for me to be comfortable to play around and have his hands on me.

Are you suggesting I have no right to say I was uncomfortable with him being in my personal space because I allow another person to? Because that is basically what you are saying.

I think she overreacted.

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

MESS he was only having a laugh. If she was annoyed or actually hurt she had to do was say "ow Ryan that hurt." In fact she did, and Ryan apologised and walked away.

But then she took it too far and tried to get him chucked out and ruin his reputation and career by acting like he's some scary violent person.

You can't be serious trying to defend her

Pink Panther · 31-08-2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

Unwelcomed behaviour isn’t limited to touching...

I know. But she lied, that's the point.

Greg! · 31-08-2018, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

Unwelcomed behaviour isn’t limited to touching...

How far do we take this theory? So should all the housemates be banned from hugging the evictee and saying bye when the result is announced unless they get explicit consent? Stop being ridiculous and obtuse.

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Panther

I know. But she lied, that's the point.

Yes, she lied. She said he punched her. He didn't even make contact.

kingston · 31-08-2018, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Oh please, she isn't a victim. It was just playfighting. He didn't attack her, fgs!

Ryan’s intent doesn’t matter...

Vanessa · 31-08-2018, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

How far do we take this theory? So should all the housemates be banned from hugging the evictee and saying bye when the result is announced unless they get explicit consent? Stop being ridiculous and obtuse.

Alf · 31-08-2018, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kingston

Unwelcomed behaviour isn’t limited to touching...

It's her behaviour that seems to be the most unwelcome.

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