[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Secondly, here we are again. A trans woman insisting she's the same as a born woman, and she's not.

Tbf, she hasn't done that at all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf, she hasn't done that at all.

With respect, Marshy... she spent her whole time in the BB house saying "I'm a REAL woman!".

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

With respect, Marshy... she spent her whole time in the BB house saying "I'm a REAL woman!".

We're discussing this debate though in which, quite the opposite to her usual self, India was calm and reasonable in her responses.

I didn't watch most of that series so I can't comment.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

We're discussing this debate though in which, quite the opposite to her usual self, India was calm and reasonable in her responses.

I didn't watch most of that series so I can't comment.

Well, as this isn't a court and I can take previous behaviour into account to inform my judgement, she DID spend the whole time wailing that she's a REAL woman and got very upset when a much younger man didn't want to kiss her... assuming it was because she's transsexual when in actuality it may well have been because she was too old for him. Even India herself said toward the end of her stint that she had played it all wrong. And she wasn't calm and reasonable, she interrupted constantly.

And yes, she was quite calm and reasonable. But then when she was a man she had a career in broadcast television.

One thing I've noticed... it's quite telling that the strongest posts, with the worst slurs against the "feminist", are from men.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, as this isn't a court and I can take previous behaviour into account to inform my judgement

Yes, you can, but again, the comment was directed at this debate where she did no such thing.

Originally Posted by Livia

Even India herself said toward the end of her stint that she had played it all wrong. And she wasn't calm and reasonable, she interrupted constantly.

Key word being "played", it would be hard to tell how much was typical BB housemate theatrics to get attention and how much was genuine.

Secondly, I didn't say she was calm and reasonable in the house, hence why I stated I didn't watch all of her time in the BB house.

Originally Posted by Livia

And yes, she was quite calm and reasonable. But then when she was a man she had a career in broadcast television.

I don't think in this instance it's got anything to do with it. Man or woman in broadcast television would be media trained well enough to hold a civil televised debate.