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View Poll Results: What should be done with Brexit? | ||||||
Leave with no deal (Hard Brexit) | 10 | 25.00% | ||||
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Leave with May's deal | 8 | 20.00% | ||||
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Revoke Article 50 | 9 | 22.50% | ||||
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Second referendum | 13 | 32.50% | ||||
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21-03-2019, 11:52 AM | #26 | |||
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The voice of reason
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• Chris Bickerton teaches politics at Cambridge University https://www.theguardian.com/global/c...y-peoples-vote Chris disagrees with you |
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21-03-2019, 11:53 AM | #27 | |||
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I'm not talking about a general leave or remain referendum, I'm talking about get a brexit plan together and put that on a ballot against remaining. Would that really be an attack on democracy?
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21-03-2019, 11:53 AM | #28 | |||
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Neither leave nor remain had any idea what was going on because it wasn't presented to us. But people with a brain looked into the likely impacts of no deal, they considered exports and imports, at least I did before I voted. And not just leavers, remainers too... but there are small pockets on both sides who think the other side are complete morons. I guess you're in that group. |
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21-03-2019, 11:54 AM | #29 | |||
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21-03-2019, 11:55 AM | #30 | |||
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I'm not asking you to prove my point. It's a point that is evident from the many people who are saying it. Denying they exist is hardly beneficial is it?
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21-03-2019, 11:56 AM | #31 | |||
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21-03-2019, 11:58 AM | #32 | |||
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Sack all our current mp's and get a new lot in that actually reflect the views of their constituents
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21-03-2019, 12:00 PM | #33 | |||
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21-03-2019, 12:01 PM | #34 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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21-03-2019, 12:02 PM | #35 | |||
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I have faith in the wisdom of crowds, I don't subscribe to the thinking that anyone who wasn't of the same mind as me is an idiot. Nor am I impressed by right wing nonsense. Every time that bus appeared people were criticising it. I don't know anyone who was taken in by it. The truth is, remain lost the referendum. And that's it.
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21-03-2019, 12:04 PM | #36 | ||
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I'm sick of hearing about that bloody bus , it had zero to do with how i voted or anyone else i know , i've been waiting years for this vote and mine went back by return of post.
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21-03-2019, 12:04 PM | #37 | |||
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"Many leavers are looking at the mess and saying that they would now vote completely differently." That's what you said initially. I know many leavers and they're all adamant that we leave, like the referendum result said. The only people I hear saying they want to remain are remainers. |
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21-03-2019, 12:06 PM | #38 | |||
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21-03-2019, 12:09 PM | #39 | |||
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Jolly good
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I'd say leave with May's deal, which is (mainly) only a transitional arrangement anyway, and would buy us two more years to find some sort of consensus about the future relationship with the EU.
It would probably end up being soft Brexit one way or another. |
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21-03-2019, 12:09 PM | #40 | |||
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Revoke or leave with Norway plus/Canada arrangement
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21-03-2019, 12:13 PM | #41 | |||
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i think if no deal looks like being the way we are heading, having voted against that in the majority only last week, they should then revoke with the condition of there being a new referendum.
The referendum should then be a simple choice, remain or leave without a deal. This means everyone is clear on exactly what their choice is and there will be no further negotiation with the EU |
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21-03-2019, 12:13 PM | #42 | |||
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May's deal keeps us tied to the EU. Personally I think we should still leave... but remainers have screwed the whole process into the ground, strung it out, voted against, in the hopes we'll stay. Just my opinion of course. |
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21-03-2019, 12:13 PM | #43 | |||
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I voted remain, I still want to remain - but cannot be arsed with another 2 years of this. I do still believe if we leave with no deal we are in for a whole world of pain in the immediate aftermath and for a good few years but I want the whole debacle over. Now, if you excuse me, I am off to stockpile toilet rolls and tinned tuna.
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21-03-2019, 12:14 PM | #44 | ||
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EU Single Market Customs' Union You do realize you can leave EU and remain in the other two? They may be conflated with the EU but in fact they are stand-alonge entities. That was not asked. |
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21-03-2019, 12:14 PM | #45 | |||
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21-03-2019, 12:15 PM | #46 | |||
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21-03-2019, 12:17 PM | #47 | ||
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edit: and no, I'm not trying to patronise, that' just my style of discussion so get used to it and lay off those lame accusations Last edited by Twosugars; 21-03-2019 at 12:19 PM. |
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21-03-2019, 12:18 PM | #48 | |||
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I must say there is a certain irony about TM and her deal and the referendum
"its no good" says parliament "wait let me try again" says may "its no good" says parliament "wait, look at it now, iv changed the font" says may "its no good" says parliament "wait, let me give a billion quid to the DUP, how about now? says may "its no good" says parliament "how about another referendum PM?" says the Great British Public says May - you had one, Brexit means Brexit, how dare you |
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21-03-2019, 12:18 PM | #49 | |||
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21-03-2019, 12:19 PM | #50 | |||
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