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View Poll Results: What should be done with Brexit?
Leave with no deal (Hard Brexit) 10 25.00%
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Leave with May's deal 8 20.00%
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Revoke Article 50 9 22.50%
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Old 21-03-2019, 12:38 PM #1
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Not true tbh.

Many leavers are looking at the mess and saying that they would now vote completely differently.
Anecdotal evidence is not useful here.


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“Democracy has spoken” is such an odd thing to say when actively voting against democracy.

“Democracy has spoken so democracy must never speak again” ?? Odd.
Remainers seem to have lost their grasp of what democracy means. It's not open to interpretation.
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Anecdotal evidence is not useful here.




Remainers seem to have lost their grasp of what democracy means. It's not open to interpretation.
That time we only ever had one election because Livia kicked up a fuss about the first one being democratic so the rest are not.
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That time we only ever had one election because Livia kicked up a fuss about the first one being democratic so the rest are not.
It's unlikely that we're going to continue with referendum after referendum until we reach the result you prefer.

Imagine if 'remain' had won and Brexiters started demanding another referendum. I can imagine what your reaction would be. YOU would be lecturing ME about democracy.
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It's unlikely that we're going to continue with referendum after referendum until we reach the result you prefer.

Imagine if 'remain' had won and Brexiters started demanding another referendum. I can imagine what your reaction would be. YOU would be lecturing ME about democracy.
No one is asking for third or fourth votes, only Theresa May does that.
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It's unlikely that we're going to continue with referendum after referendum until we reach the result you prefer.

Imagine if 'remain' had won and Brexiters started demanding another referendum. I can imagine what your reaction would be. YOU would be lecturing ME about democracy.
Untrue. If there was genuine motive for a new referendum after remain won (like an ibvious shift in mindsets or ukip ever winning a single seat) then it would be worth discussing again.

The mindset of 2016 is not a reason to go against the mindset of people in 2019. And if the mindset shifts once more in 2022 back to leaves favour - it would be stupid to ignore it based on how we felt in 2019.
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Anecdotal evidence is not useful here.
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Neither is denial from the facts.
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Neither is denial from the facts.
You haven't presented any facts. That's my point.
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You haven't presented any facts. That's my point.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8521346.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/poll...18-4?r=US&IR=T

Just a couple of the multitude of opinions on the subject that took me about 2.5 seconds to find on Google. Opening your eyes may well show you more.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8521346.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/poll...18-4?r=US&IR=T

Just a couple of the multitude of opinions on the subject that took me about 2.5 seconds to find on Google. Opening your eyes may well show you more.
^^^The new study was carried out by data analysis experts Focaldata for pro-EU campaign group Best for Britain.


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https://www.businessinsider.com/poll...18-4?r=US&IR=T

Just a couple of the multitude of opinions on the subject that took me about 2.5 seconds to find on Google. Opening your eyes may well show you more.
It's not my job to prove your point, Rob. I could post half a dozen newspaper articles with a views in 180deg opposition to these.
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It's not my job to prove your point, Rob. I could post half a dozen newspaper articles with a views in 180deg opposition to these.
I'm not asking you to prove my point. It's a point that is evident from the many people who are saying it. Denying they exist is hardly beneficial is it?
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I'm not asking you to prove my point. It's a point that is evident from the many people who are saying it. Denying they exist is hardly beneficial is it?


"Many leavers are looking at the mess and saying that they would now vote completely differently."

That's what you said initially. I know many leavers and they're all adamant that we leave, like the referendum result said. The only people I hear saying they want to remain are remainers.
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Anecdotal evidence is not useful here.




Remainers seem to have lost their grasp of what democracy means. It's not open to interpretation.
And what are we leaving? What have people voted to leave? Do they even know themselves?
EU
Single Market
Customs' Union

You do realize you can leave EU and remain in the other two? They may be conflated with the EU but in fact they are stand-alonge entities. That was not asked.
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And what are we leaving? What have people voted to leave? Do they even know themselves?
EU
Single Market
Customs' Union

You do realize you can leave EU and remain in the other two? They may be conflated with the EU but in fact they are stand-alonge entities. That was not asked.
Is this you not patronising me again, sugar squared? You're sh1t at it x
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Is this you not patronising me again, sugar squared? You're sh1t at it x
doesn't answer my question

edit: and no, I'm not trying to patronise, that' just my style of discussion
so get used to it and lay off those lame accusations
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doesn't answer my question
Yes, I realise that you can leave one and remain in the other two. Was that your question?
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Yes, I realise that you can leave one and remain in the other two. Was that your question?
then how come you interpret that people chose to leave all three?
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