[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If it was a woman I'd say it could have been a tragic case of post-partum depression but I don't believe there's a male equivalent for new fathers.

I feel sorry for the family and the mother in particular.

She’d be just as evil, there would be no excuse

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

She’d be just as evil, there would be new excuse

You don't know what you are talking about.

Post partum illnesses can lead to women doing things they'd never do in their right minds. There's been stories of women who have had kids before and have raised them with love and care snapping with post partum illnesses and killing their newborns. They aren't in their right minds and when it happens, it's a tragedy all around.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You don't know what you are talking about.

Post partum illnesses can lead to women doing things they'd never do in their right minds. There's been stories of women who have had kids before and have raised them with love and care snapping with post partum illnesses and killing their newborns. They aren't in their right minds and when it happens, it's a tragedy all around.

I don’t think a loving mother can ever actively murder their own children at such a vulnerable age. I think it takes an evil person to carry through with that, I am not going to feel sorry for any child murderer no matter if you think it’s ethical and acceptable to do so because of the name of mental health

Yes post pantrum illnesses are real and it affects countless women, those women also do not kill their babies, they suffer and need more support. As soon as the murdering mother is caught she then makes true victims look bad by jumping on the band wagon and blaming her mental health, as this dad will do after speaking to his lawyer

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I don’t think a loving mother can ever actively murder their own children at such a vulnerable age. I think it takes an evil person to carry through with that, I am not going to feel sorry for any child murderer no matter if you think it’s ethical and acceptable to do so because of the name of mental health

Yes post pantrum illnesses are real and it affects countless women, those women also do not kill their babies, they suffer and need more support. As soon as the murdering mother is caught she then makes true victims look bad by jumping on the band wagon and blaming her mental health, as this dad will do after speaking to his lawyer

Yeah, you don't understand at all.

Psychosis can make anyone do terrible things, making people act out of character is what psychosis is. Post partum illnesses are not just 'Oh, I've had a baby, now I'm a bit sad', they're a spectrum and refusing to acknowledge that doesn't make you a bastion of unwavering virtue, it makes you ignorant to the facts.

If someone is not in their right mind due to things like psychosis then they can't ethically be held accountable for their actions. No need to punish these mothers just to deal with your own justice hardon when they'll be punishing themselves for the rest of their lives. What's more important is actually helping these people overcome these illnesses.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yeah, you don't understand at all.

Psychosis can make anyone do terrible things, making people act out of character is what psychosis is. Post partum illnesses are not just 'Oh, I've had a baby, now I'm a bit sad', they're a spectrum and refusing to acknowledge that doesn't make you a bastion of unwavering virtue, it makes you ignorant to the facts.

If someone is not in their right mind due to things like psychosis then they can't ethically be held accountable for their actions. No need to punish these mothers just to deal with your own justice hardon when they'll be punishing themselves for the rest of their lives. What's more important is actually helping these people overcome these illnesses.

Completely disagree, the fathers need the support of the mothers who have murdered their babies.

Likewise the mothers will need the support of the fathers that have murdered their babies in this case.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Completely disagree, the fathers need the support of the mothers who have murdered their babies.

Likewise the mothers will need the support of the fathers that have murdered their babies in this case.

You may disagree all you like. The law has a concept of diminished responsibility and psych tests will be done.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You may disagree all you like. The law has a concept of diminished responsibility and psych tests will be done.

I think everyone already knows the law is broken? When people who burn alive puppy’s and kittens get less than a year, or when people raped pregnant women, get half a year and then end up murdering someone...

Punishments need to be harsher, and mental health isn’t an acceptable excuse for murder ever - regardless of what you or Dezzy believe

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

She’d be just as evil, there would be no excuse

Post partum psychosis exists.