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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So next time a seal chokes to death on your plastic waste, you won't mind vecause our country doesn't dump as much as a much more populous country elsewhere!

It's an inconvenient truth to point out that there's shyt-all we can do about things like plastic pollution and emissions. I know people want to feel like they're contributing something but honestly... Tesco getting rid of their plastic bags or Betty down the road switching from her diesel engine to a hybrid is ... nothing.

We rely on manufacturing economies. Manufacturing economies are not going to stop polluting. Expecting any meaningful change on that front is an utterly insane level of optimism... you might as well write a letter to Santa asking him to clean up the ocean. I've said before and I'll say again... there are two options for what is going to happen:

1) We kick up the research and try to develop advanced technological solutions for cleaning up after ourselves, dissolving plastics, cleaning the air, etc. so that it doesn't matter that we're still dirty as **** - we can clean it up.

2) We don't figure out how to clean it up and it's game over.

Option 3 where we "stop creating" planet-busting pollution, does not reasonably exist.