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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

100% of humans want a better life

99.999999999% dont break laws to get it

Well it depends on how bad the individual's situation is I think.

For example if you live it rough in a third world country you're gonna be desperate enough to break laws to better yourself, it's easy for all of us on here who mainly have to deal with first world problems to say otherwise, but let's be brutally honest here, if you were a poor person from Russia (for example) and you had the opportunity to enter the UK to live a better life with more money, you wouldn't take it? Tbh I know that I would if I were in that situation.

Also I don't think that this crime is so bad that the people deserve to die that commit the crime.

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Pitch Black
they could not see the Waves


Newsnight Reported BBC2HD
Reporter in France, Like Ch4HD


In the Daytime
French Police had broken up a Camp
so many were on the move.


Johnson and Macron has spoken on the Phone.

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Honestly, what migrants do in france is out with our control. We can assist france if asked to do so, but thats the limit. It's up to the EU and france in particular to sort it's migrant issue out

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Projection doesn't really work when you're all like 'WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT CRISIS HUH? YOU CAN'T CRITICISE SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'LL MAKE ME SAD!'

Be less of a bootlicker, Sheriff. Or, alternatively, you could always defect to North Korea, you'd like it there, they don't criticise the government at all.

Dezzy putting your opinion in capital letters is not going to make any difference.

I’m far from a boot licker, calling me names is childish and means there is no possibility of having a rational conversation with you.

25 thousand have crossed the channel this year because France are letting them do it.

The people crossing the channel have nothing to offer this country and they are only coming here to abuse our health housing and benefits system

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Dezzy putting your opinion in capital letters is not going to make any difference.

I’m far from a boot licker, calling me names is childish and means there is no possibility of having a rational conversation with you.

25 thousand have crossed the channel this year because France are letting them do it.

The people crossing the channel have nothing to offer this country and they are only coming here to abuse our health housing and benefits system

I don’t agree with that at all, some have family here, most are sold a lie by the traffickers ...they get 40.00 a week and get to stay in some crappy hotel...it’s not the life of Riley...and they can’t work so for most economic migrants it’s a disastrous decision to take this route

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Honestly, what migrants do in france is out with our control. We can assist france if asked to do so, but thats the limit. It's up to the EU and france in particular to sort it's migrant issue out

yes Macron has demanded a emergency EU summit to solve this problem, France cannot do this alone, he needs help from all of the other EU nation leaders


and the french also have said that UK needs to make their nation less inviting to migrants

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes Macron has demanded a emergency EU summit to solve this problem, France cannot do this alone, he needs help from all of the other EU nation leaders


and the french also have said that UK needs to make their nation less inviting to migrants

France has been given 196 million over the past 6 years by the UK taxpayer to help police the beaches, policemen sitting by idlying watching people launch dinghys is unacceptable

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

France has been given 196 million over the past 6 years by the UK taxpayer to help police the beaches, policemen sitting by idlying watching people launch dinghys is unacceptable

totally ignoring what i posted then, and continuing to blame France


UK needs soldiers with machine guns at their borders, refuse those migrants entry, make them turn around, say they are no longer welcome rather than being oh so inviting, grow a backbone and dare to say no, enough is enough

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

totally ignoring what i posted then, and continuing to blame France


UK needs soldiers with machine guns at their borders, refuse those migrants entry, make them turn around, say they are no longer welcome rather than being oh so inviting, grow a backbone and dare to say no, enough is enough

It is not as simple as that, there are laws to protect the migrants once they land on these shores and the UK is duty bound to take them until their claim for asylum has been processed.

The latest tragedy happened in French waters, aided and abetted by French police... the French need to step up and take some responsibility rather than washing their hands of the problem

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Originally Posted by Cherie

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It is not as simple as that, there are laws to protect the migrants once they land on these shores and the UK is duty bound to take them until their claim for asylum has been processed.

The latest tragedy happened in French waters, aided and abetted by French police... the French need to step up and take some responsibility rather than washing their hands of the problem

umm lol

that law is messed up, get rid of that law then


or does the UK want to become as ****** up as my nation is for example, how we have no place for migrants anymore and how we have to move several migrants from one asylum to another makeshift asylum

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2 More boats
have arrived this morning at Dover
with around 40 illegal migrants on.

Nothing is changing.

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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Projection doesn't really work when you're all like 'WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT CRISIS HUH? YOU CAN'T CRITICISE SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'LL MAKE ME SAD!'

Be less of a bootlicker, Sheriff. Or, alternatively, you could always defect to North Korea, you'd like it there, they don't criticise the government at all.

In this particular case, who do you think is more to blame -
a) the cash-strapped UK government for not spending billions trying to turn their countries into something fit for the modern world
b) the French authorities, who are being paid millions to stop the migrant crossings, for sitting back and allowing the migrants to attempt the journey
?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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I don’t agree with that at all, some have family here, most are sold a lie by the traffickers ...they get 40.00 a week and get to stay in some crappy hotel...it’s not the life of Riley...and they can’t work so for most economic migrants it’s a disastrous decision to take this route

Do you think they stay in that situation?
If they are allowed to stay then the gravy train begins

And that’s just the one’s going down the legal route you then have those joining up with people already here criminals gangs

People who have raped and murdered in their own country are walking our streets

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

In this particular case, who do you think is more to blame -
a) the cash-strapped UK government for not spending billions trying to turn their countries into something fit for the modern world
b) the French authorities, who are being paid millions to stop the migrant crossings, for sitting back and allowing the migrants to attempt the journey
?

blame France, but the UK government are moronic or something to just accept it and let those illegal migrants in when they obviously know the nation is getting too filled up with both legal and illegal migrants


everything to keep defending the UK goverment in all of this


can understand France myself very well for being eager to get rid of those migrants asap, and if UK is stupid enough to let them in rather than having a better and stricter border policy


this is why those illegal migrants are so happy to go to UK, since they just walk in very easily without trouble at the border

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Do you think they stay in that situation?
If they are allowed to stay then the gravy train begins

And that’s just the one’s going down the legal route you then have those joining up with people already here criminals gangs

People who have raped and murdered in their own country are walking our streets

I agree we should know who is coming into the country, but listening to the various arguments this morning, the main draw seems to be the ease at which the migrants can disappearing into the black market economy which they can't do in France