Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 24-11-2021, 10:38 PM #1076
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 24-11-2021, 10:39 PM #1077
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 24-11-2021, 10:40 PM #1078
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 24-11-2021, 10:45 PM #1079
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 12:04 AM #1080
Mystic Mock's Avatar
Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 54,646

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
Mystic Mock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 54,646

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
100% of humans want a better life

99.999999999% dont break laws to get it
Well it depends on how bad the individual's situation is I think.

For example if you live it rough in a third world country you're gonna be desperate enough to break laws to better yourself, it's easy for all of us on here who mainly have to deal with first world problems to say otherwise, but let's be brutally honest here, if you were a poor person from Russia (for example) and you had the opportunity to enter the UK to live a better life with more money, you wouldn't take it? Tbh I know that I would if I were in that situation.

Also I don't think that this crime is so bad that the people deserve to die that commit the crime.
__________________


Out with extreme Politics on both sides of the divide.
Mystic Mock is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 02:25 AM #1081
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

Pitch Black
they could not see the Waves



Newsnight Reported BBC2HD
Reporter in France, Like Ch4HD


In the Daytime
French Police had broken up a Camp
so many were on the move.


Johnson and Macron has spoken on the Phone.

Last edited by arista; 25-11-2021 at 02:29 AM.
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 02:35 AM #1082
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 02:36 AM #1083
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 02:37 AM #1084
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 02:37 AM #1085
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 02:38 AM #1086
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 03:59 AM #1087
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Deleted Post

Last edited by Tom4784; 21-12-2021 at 12:00 AM.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 05:29 AM #1088
bitontheslide's Avatar
bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,267

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
bitontheslide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,267

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Honestly, what migrants do in france is out with our control. We can assist france if asked to do so, but thats the limit. It's up to the EU and france in particular to sort it's migrant issue out
bitontheslide is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 06:24 AM #1089
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,223


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,223


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
Projection doesn't really work when you're all like 'WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT CRISIS HUH? YOU CAN'T CRITICISE SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'LL MAKE ME SAD!'

Be less of a bootlicker, Sheriff. Or, alternatively, you could always defect to North Korea, you'd like it there, they don't criticise the government at all.
Dezzy putting your opinion in capital letters is not going to make any difference.

I’m far from a boot licker, calling me names is childish and means there is no possibility of having a rational conversation with you.

25 thousand have crossed the channel this year because France are letting them do it.

The people crossing the channel have nothing to offer this country and they are only coming here to abuse our health housing and benefits system

Last edited by thesheriff443; 25-11-2021 at 06:25 AM.
thesheriff443 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 06:44 AM #1090
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thesheriff443 View Post
Dezzy putting your opinion in capital letters is not going to make any difference.

I’m far from a boot licker, calling me names is childish and means there is no possibility of having a rational conversation with you.

25 thousand have crossed the channel this year because France are letting them do it.

The people crossing the channel have nothing to offer this country and they are only coming here to abuse our health housing and benefits system



I don’t agree with that at all, some have family here, most are sold a lie by the traffickers ...they get 40.00 a week and get to stay in some crappy hotel...it’s not the life of Riley...and they can’t work so for most economic migrants it’s a disastrous decision to take this route
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 08:01 AM #1091
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
Honestly, what migrants do in france is out with our control. We can assist france if asked to do so, but thats the limit. It's up to the EU and france in particular to sort it's migrant issue out
yes Macron has demanded a emergency EU summit to solve this problem, France cannot do this alone, he needs help from all of the other EU nation leaders


and the french also have said that UK needs to make their nation less inviting to migrants
__________________

Taking part in Strictly Jake's Tibb does Strictly Game.


Spoiler:





Israel we Love You
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 08:07 AM #1092
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
yes Macron has demanded a emergency EU summit to solve this problem, France cannot do this alone, he needs help from all of the other EU nation leaders


and the french also have said that UK needs to make their nation less inviting to migrants
France has been given 196 million over the past 6 years by the UK taxpayer to help police the beaches, policemen sitting by idlying watching people launch dinghys is unacceptable
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 08:12 AM #1093
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
France has been given 196 million over the past 6 years by the UK taxpayer to help police the beaches, policemen sitting by idlying watching people launch dinghys is unacceptable
totally ignoring what i posted then, and continuing to blame France


UK needs soldiers with machine guns at their borders, refuse those migrants entry, make them turn around, say they are no longer welcome rather than being oh so inviting, grow a backbone and dare to say no, enough is enough
__________________

Taking part in Strictly Jake's Tibb does Strictly Game.


Spoiler:





Israel we Love You
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 08:16 AM #1094
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
totally ignoring what i posted then, and continuing to blame France


UK needs soldiers with machine guns at their borders, refuse those migrants entry, make them turn around, say they are no longer welcome rather than being oh so inviting, grow a backbone and dare to say no, enough is enough



It is not as simple as that, there are laws to protect the migrants once they land on these shores and the UK is duty bound to take them until their claim for asylum has been processed.

The latest tragedy happened in French waters, aided and abetted by French police... the French need to step up and take some responsibility rather than washing their hands of the problem
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 08:22 AM #1095
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
[/B]

It is not as simple as that, there are laws to protect the migrants once they land on these shores and the UK is duty bound to take them until their claim for asylum has been processed.

The latest tragedy happened in French waters, aided and abetted by French police... the French need to step up and take some responsibility rather than washing their hands of the problem
umm lol

that law is messed up, get rid of that law then


or does the UK want to become as ****** up as my nation is for example, how we have no place for migrants anymore and how we have to move several migrants from one asylum to another makeshift asylum
__________________

Taking part in Strictly Jake's Tibb does Strictly Game.


Spoiler:





Israel we Love You
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 08:39 AM #1096
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,085
Default

2 More boats
have arrived this morning at Dover
with around 40 illegal migrants on.

Nothing is changing.

SkyNewsHD, BBCnewsHD
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 09:09 AM #1097
Oliver_W's Avatar
Oliver_W Oliver_W is online now
POW! BLAM!
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,943

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is online now
POW! BLAM!
Oliver_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,943

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
Projection doesn't really work when you're all like 'WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT CRISIS HUH? YOU CAN'T CRITICISE SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'LL MAKE ME SAD!'

Be less of a bootlicker, Sheriff. Or, alternatively, you could always defect to North Korea, you'd like it there, they don't criticise the government at all.
In this particular case, who do you think is more to blame -
a) the cash-strapped UK government for not spending billions trying to turn their countries into something fit for the modern world
b) the French authorities, who are being paid millions to stop the migrant crossings, for sitting back and allowing the migrants to attempt the journey
?
__________________


Oliver_W is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 09:15 AM #1098
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,223


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,223


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
[/B]

I don’t agree with that at all, some have family here, most are sold a lie by the traffickers ...they get 40.00 a week and get to stay in some crappy hotel...it’s not the life of Riley...and they can’t work so for most economic migrants it’s a disastrous decision to take this route
Do you think they stay in that situation?
If they are allowed to stay then the gravy train begins

And that’s just the one’s going down the legal route you then have those joining up with people already here criminals gangs

People who have raped and murdered in their own country are walking our streets
thesheriff443 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 09:24 AM #1099
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
TeamIsrael <3 <3 <3
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,777

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver_W View Post
In this particular case, who do you think is more to blame -
a) the cash-strapped UK government for not spending billions trying to turn their countries into something fit for the modern world
b) the French authorities, who are being paid millions to stop the migrant crossings, for sitting back and allowing the migrants to attempt the journey
?
blame France, but the UK government are moronic or something to just accept it and let those illegal migrants in when they obviously know the nation is getting too filled up with both legal and illegal migrants


everything to keep defending the UK goverment in all of this


can understand France myself very well for being eager to get rid of those migrants asap, and if UK is stupid enough to let them in rather than having a better and stricter border policy


this is why those illegal migrants are so happy to go to UK, since they just walk in very easily without trouble at the border
__________________

Taking part in Strictly Jake's Tibb does Strictly Game.


Spoiler:





Israel we Love You
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 25-11-2021, 09:45 AM #1100
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,440

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thesheriff443 View Post
Do you think they stay in that situation?
If they are allowed to stay then the gravy train begins

And that’s just the one’s going down the legal route you then have those joining up with people already here criminals gangs

People who have raped and murdered in their own country are walking our streets
I agree we should know who is coming into the country, but listening to the various arguments this morning, the main draw seems to be the ease at which the migrants can disappearing into the black market economy which they can't do in France
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
17, boat, boats, dover, entering, fishing, found, french, illegal, kent, lorry, migrants, uk, ‘stolen’

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:50 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts